Unpopular Opinion: Jury Duty can be used to take a stand for Free Speech.

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  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Not your call. That's the point.
     
  2. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Different states have different Laws. Neither of us is a lawmaker.
     
  3. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Riiiight. And when you hang a jury based on politics, let us know how it turns out. Your fellow jurors will ask that you be removed.
     
  4. CCitizen

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    Jurors who hang jury based on Politics should not tell other jurors the reason.
     
  5. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Jesus k. NOT YOUR CALL. It doesn't matter what your opinion of how a business should operate is. It's up to them, within the law.
     
  6. cristiansoldier

    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    Can you think of an example where that type of speech that would make a group of people so uncomfortable that it would impact their work? Our projects are divided into small teams of 3-8 people. The team works very closely together and the level of collaboration is paramount. One person can easily impact the success of the team.
     
  7. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be lost in a fantasy. Your fellow jurors aren't idiots.
     
  8. CCitizen

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    We can agree to disagree.
     
  9. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, it often happens that SJWs pressure a business to fire a person for opinion far from Hate Speech.
     
  10. cristiansoldier

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    But does that opinion disrupt the work environment? Also is it necessary for that individual to express that opinion in the work environment? I have I whole slew of opinions I keep to myself in the workplace.
     
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  11. CCitizen

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    I was only talking about opinions expressed off duty.
     
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    Unless that person is speaking at some type of public venue or using expressing their opinion publicly on social media how would that opinion make its way back the workplace?
     
  13. CCitizen

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    SJWs may try to get someone fired for publicly advocating legitimate yet Politically Incorrect issues.
     
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    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    Can you give me an example of how this could happen? An example of an issue and how these SJW found out about it?
     
  15. CCitizen

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    There are hundreds of issues. Many issues I am not familiar with.

    Some issues I am familiar with. For instance someone protests male bashing on Twitter. SJWs who view men as oppressors view opposition to male bashing as a fireable offense.
     
  16. ChiCowboy

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    Disagree on what? Reality? Sorry, not gonna agree to your fantasy. You are advocating jury misconduct for political purposes. You'd never get away with it. Indeed, this thread of yours would likely disqualify you from ever being selected on a jury in real life.

    I'll do you one better. Let's decide guilt or innocence based on race. Or gender, hair color, age, anything but the evidence. Your idea is profoundly anti-American, which would make you the proverbial "enemy."
     
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  17. CCitizen

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    Many thinkers including Ron Paul advocated Jury Nullification and wrote works on the subject.
     
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    The jury should consider only consider two things, the charges brought before them and the evidence presented to it during the trial.
     
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    I do not advocate that. I am against 100%.

    But there are thousands of cases where biased jurors did exactly that.
     
  20. cristiansoldier

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    I don't see how a SJW can get someone fired for protesting the bashing of males. Unless they could produce examples of that person saying horrible things I don't think it would even make it to HR. Do you have examples of people being fired for this situation when the person fire was simply protesting the bashing of males? I assume when you say protesting that person was doing it in a peaceful, civil manner. Also where do these protest take place? I have never heard of them and where are they protesting? Are they at city hall, marching in the streets?
     
  21. CCitizen

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    In arguments on Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, TikTok, etc.

    Can someone be fired for protesting male-bashing? In 2000s it was already Politically Incorrect, yet I had several friends who wrote on issues affecting men under their own names. They were not fired. In 2020? -- perhaps they would have been fired.
     
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    You can protest in a 15 sec video on TikTok? Can you link me to one?

    So really no examples of anyone fired. Our complete discussion is solely hypothetical then?
     
  23. CCitizen

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    I do not know. Yes, this issue is hypothetical so far.

    I do know that in 2000s many people who had very Politically Incorrect webpages did keep their jobs. Some of my friends.
     
  24. Thedimon

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    I wasn’t aware of this.
    I’m against prosecuting victimless crimes. If I’m ever on a jury, and the case has victimless crimes, I’ll use that.
     
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    Of course you're advocating that. One man's enemy is another man's friend. And we each have our own ideas on who the enemy is.

    Your premise is ridiculous. You can't stop anything through jury nullification, much less cancel culture. It wouldn't even make for a good drama.
     

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