US Attorney Durham objects to IG findings on Russia probe origins in stunning statement

No takers!! Tells me that we are all in the same boat and have no idea what this is about.

I thought Trump said something was coming which would be a defining moment in the impeachment proceedings in his favour. Was that crap as well?

 

The investigation wasn't justified in the slightest(unless you can think of an investigation, besides this one where the would-be prosecutors selectively omit evidence and lie about it.) Only Horowitz himself justified it(actually, better said, he simply accepted the FBI's justification for it.)

That's not justification. That's like agreeing with a bank robber that he's entitled to rob a bank. What we learned is that the corruption is so far perverted the FBI, beyond initial expectations. We thought it was about 3 counts of perjury, not 17 counts. We didn't know of a fourth person who by the IG's own report wasn't even a suspect in the investigation. Yet he/she was surveiled. This person has a stronger case than Carter Page for his/her civil liberties being violated, far from protecting them in the so-called "low threshold"(You can be forgiven for not spotting the threshold, there clearly wasn't any leadership accountability again as per the IG report.)

This was a dark day for the FBI, for America, for civil liberties. Horowitz being a yes man for the FBI's reasoning, does not excuse the evidence(vid: to see), that's on the table. Perjury is still a crime in America.

 

To be honest, I think they're just taking a page from the lefts playbook: 'salvation is just around the corner (and we really really mean it this time!)'.

Q has got part of it right: we are watching a movie. And if we keep just watching, the directors will determine the ending for us.

The establishment isn't going to fix itself. Trump is basically alone up there. If you havn't at least called your republican representatives to tell them their jobs depend on supporting Trump, well I hope ur enjoying the show, because thats all it'll be.

 

And, when Durham's report turns out similarly, you'll be branding him as "a member of the Deep State." They are the people and the institutions protecting this country. Why are you trying to destroy it?

 

You will surely be disappointed when nothing happens.

 

Actually, I'm just following the evidence. The same evidence the IG report outlines. The ONLY difference, is that I don't adhere to the FBI's justification, whereas Horowitz has accepted it at face value(IE: No bias, when these people speak utterly strongly, in terms that can only be defined as manifest bias. And quite frankly, you'll have to sell me a river that they didn't act in such a manner.)

But the bias part is irrelevant. Whether they had bias in committing their perjury, or thought that committing crimes was somehow an FBI Duty, doesn't matter. Crimes were committed and hopefully will be prosecuted.

As I told you before: If you or I did it, we go to jail. My only expectation is that these actors are not "above the law". Why do you want them to be above the law?

 

True, BL.

It went from about 3 Separate RW "Defining Moments", and were all a Bust-Out.

Then, the RW put all of their Eggs in The "IG Horowitz is gonna blow the lid off" Basket.

NOW, they didn't hear what they wanted from Horowitz, so the RW has hitched their wagon to Durham.

Totally predictable. Is anybody actually surprised?

And, of course, it begs the Obvious Question:

Where does the RW go if Durham craps out?

 

There is no conspiracy against our POTUS.
Nobody is above the law.
Why do Trump supporters want to destroy the FBI for a soon to be impeached dipshit?

 

I'll be stunned if Durham "craps out". If Durham craps out, we should all demand the ability to lie under oath. Why should the FBI get special powers that we don't?

 

This isn't about a conspiracy against the POTUS. This is about multiple acts of perjury, under oath in court(and to Congress when Comey testified that it wasn't verified, meanwhile testifying that it was verified to the FISA Court.)

If they can lie, with impunity, 17 times then quite frankly we have no civil liberties. That literally was their argument in citing a SCOTUS case(that involved a grand jury BTW, not individual investigators), that they could open up 'cases', just to assure there isn't actually a case!

Glad to know our rights are a sham. This isn't a Trump issue, this is an America issue. This is everything we feared with the Patriot Act. Or well, most Liberals were against the Patriot Act. What was your position on the act?

 

Well......can you help me out here?

 

Ya know...you are right. It started with 'alternative facts,' and it still has not ended.

 

'On both sides'. This won't end until someone can actually swear under oath and give some form of documentation to the facts.

 

You ned to check Comey's testimony. He said not ALL of the Steele dossier had been verified. Very few, including Steele, have claimed all of it as verified.

 

Then that would be about 1/1000 the number of threads claiming Trump colluded with Russia, spied for Russia, obstructed justice, committed a quid pro quo, bribed a foreign leader, extorted a foreign leader, abused the power of his presidency and grabbed women by their p*ssy.

 

I have ALWAYS said:

IF Durham (or anybody) can PROVE (beyond a reasonable doubt) that an actual CRIME was committed, the perps should be prosecuted.

That said, RW Fantasies Do NOT equal "crimes".

But yeah, if Durham finds something in the Rabbit Hole (that is PROVABLE) bring it on.

 

The President is the one refusing to hand over relevant documents and to allow key persons to testify under oath...including himself.

 

1. "Trump colluded with Russia, spied for Russia," No tick. Dunno.
2. "obstructed justice," Tick!
3. "committed a quid pro quo," Tick!
4. "bribed a foreign leader, extorted a foreign leader, abused the power of his presidency" On all three....tick.
5. "grabbed women by their p*ssy." That 's what he said.......so.......tick!

 

No you didn’t. Only 2 months ago you said this.
Exact date was Oct 8th.


Andrew JacksonWell-Known Member
Just another RW Tinfoil Hat Nothingburger DISTRACTION going down a Rabbit Hole.

"HEY! Look over here."

Durham?

 

Apparently none of it's verified. No peewee tape, no 19.5% share. No prague trip by Michael Cohen. No hacking conspiracy between Page and Manafort(it most certainly would've been brought up when they had Manafort to rights.)

None of it. Yet the FBI used that dossier verbatim, even though they knew they couldn't verify it and it was in the 'initial' stages of verifying it. We call that lying, or perjury. Or if you prefer, just plain corruption.

If we didn't prosecute these crimes, it means the FBI is above the law.

 

Damn, if you can prove your ticks than what the hell are you doing on some random political chat room? You should be the special counsel for the House Judiciary and/or Intelligent Committees.

 

So What?

That was Then, This is NOW.

That was MONTHS AGO.

As a Matter of Personal Prerogative, I reserve the right to change my mind at any time.

And, why are you trolling with posts (from 2 MONTHS AGO) in a Current Thread?

Not a good look.

And, back on topic, I stand by my CURRENT Statement which is:

If Durham can PROVE anything, bring it on.

 

We should want this. This has NOTHING to do with Trump. Nothing, nada. This has everything to do with if we have a 1st and 4th Amendments or not. No one is butt kissing Trump, we're trying to keep what little of a country we have left. If law enforcement officers can lie with impunity(and that's what they are, federal LEO'S) then well we're doomed.

If you think of them as LEO's, will it help with evaluating the situation? Since criminal justice reform is a liberal item.

 

Remember my reply to your post from Oct 8th? If not let me refresh your memory. Well, this is future reference.



SEAL Team VWell-Known Member
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Durham?

If you don't mind I'm going to save this part of your post for future reference.

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