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Brittany Pettibone is a neo-Nazi?

 

Incredible! Can any Brit refute this?

 

Brittany Pettibone is a 'white power' type? How?

Oh, but Britain DOES want Muslim extremists stirring up trouble so lets them in?

 

Where is your outrage for all of the people who have been denied entry to the US, or even banned from entering?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_barred_or_excluded_from_the_United_States

 

He was arrested for refusing a legitimate police order to move on. He was asked to move on because he did not have permission to speak outside the building. he was not charged or convicted.

I seem to recall American police killing people for less...on more than one occasion.....and people in America have been arrested for publicly criticizing school boards & local councils. If you are searching for moral high ground you aren't going to find it.

Muslims in Britain have also been jailed for their words - such as urging people to support ISIS. I assume you are not nearly as worried about that as you are about white supremacist girl being detained pending removal.

As I have said all along, this isn't about any principle, it is just more tribalism.

 

Pushes 'white genocide' BS, promoted the ideas of other white supremacists.

No. It jails them for saying things it doesn't like.

 

I have none because none were imprisoned.

Had you watched the video Chris kindly posted in 124 you'd be more familiar with who is being allowed entry and who is being sent home as the Canadian journalist was, or imprisoned, like the other two were. Watch it and then we'll talk.

 

Any evidence whatsoever for this or will your wild assertion remain unsupported?

Britain jails Muslims for saying things it doesn't like? Like who?

 

Of course there is.

Anjem Choudary

 

I saw photos of him being hauled away in a police van, which will certainly discourage anyone else from quoting Churchill. He did not have permission to speak outside a building? Strange.

Why this fallback on what goes on in the United States? The concern is Britain. Does bad behavior in the US allow Brits to act badly as well? The Brits should be more adult than that.

I'm concerned about the selective outrage, the laws in Britain and the process as to who is allowed to speak and who isn't.

Right. And the Muslim tribe is winning.

 

QUOTE="bigfella, post: 1068808193, member: 70318"]Pushes 'white genocide' BS, promoted the ideas of other white supremacists.[/QUOTE] Do you have links to where she said this?

 

I'm just wondering why you can't mention your evidence here.

Yeah okay, Choudary is an obvious example. However, what does this have to do with the UK continuing to let in similar people to Choudary?

 

It will discourage people from speaking without permission in places where it is required. Nothing strange about that.

Americans are insisting that there is some standard being violated here and saying all manner of insulting things about Britain as a result. It is only fair to pint out that Britain is no worse than their own nation when it comes to arresting people for speaking their minds.

You aren't concerned about the selective outrage. You ARE the selective outrage.

 

I have spent a lot of time over the past week digging up evidence for morons who just ignore it because it doesn't fit their beliefs. If you are really interested in this you can google it yourself.

I don't know? You are the one making the assertion. You wanted ta Muslim who got locked up for saying the wrong thing, I gave you one. There are more, as I'm sure you know.

 

Speaking without permission? That sounds like something you'd hear in a classroom of children. People are living longer but adulthood seems reluctant to arrive.

It's not just Americans who are saying this. Many Brits are as well. People in everywhere should be concerned because it is a trend in every democracy.

Ad hominems will not win you any debate.

 

What do you mean by "pushes white genocide?" This means genocide of white people. Wouldn't that be a black supremacist?

Fine, I'll go back to my original point. Why does Britain allow in ANY extremist of ANY political or religious belief?

 

If you had quoted me correctly, right down to the punctuation, the meaning would be pretty clear. Punctuation rocks.

No idea. I'm not British & don't work for the people who decide these things.

Few countries are 100% consistent about these things, including mine and yours. The US refused entry to an activist from the Philippines who was also a member of their Parliament and a Muslim Academic from Switzerland. It allowed access to Geert Wilders and any number of Saudi Princes. If you are trying to prove something with an appeal to consistency you won't get anywhere.

 

They weren't "imprisoned". They were detained until deportation.

Like Yusuf Islam was when he tried to enter the US. You might know him better as Cat Stevens.

Your outrage is selective and misplaced.

 

While I'm not convinced that there was a risk to public safety or peace, the fact is that he arrested for refusing a legitimate police order to move on, as @bigfella said.
He wasn't charged with offensive speech - perhaps you thought that he had when you saw him hauled away in a police van. And I know that offensive speech crimes do exist in England, as they do in all of the West, other than the great US of A. So I could forgive you if you were under that impression. Anyway, people shouldn't allow this incident to prevent them from quoting Churchill.

And regarding speaking outside a building, isn't it the case in England that there are only certain areas where open air public speaking is allowed? Hyde Park, Speaker's Corner being one of them? Other areas being open by permission only, requiring an event registration or something?

 

Okay, easy:

So you put "white genocide" inside single quotation marks. How does that explain your meaning? How does she "push" white genocide exactly? Surely you're capable of elaborating. I have faith in my fellow Aussie!

Well I certainly acknowledge that. It shows the incompetence of these countries that they cannot remain consistent. In the end it should really come down to one question - are they extremists? If they are, they should be banned. However, these two harmless girls are NOT extremists! It would've been different if it was an ACTUAL white supremacist like Richard Spencer who was banned!

 

I'm currently working on that. We'll see @bigfella is capable of producing something.

 

The condescension towards Americans is proving globalism wrong more and more everyday, and the genius of the Founders right. Screw the rest of the world, it's about our people here in the United States. We generally treat minorities well, and for the most part we genuinely don't reject anybody out of hand as long as they're not a threat to us. And by threat, I mean a substantial, actual one.

Looks like the 'Western alliance' never existed, and it was more us carrying the weight of other nations. When charity is unappreciated, expect those giving the charity to be less giving.

 

In the US we deport foreign citizens who have the audacity to do reporting despite having valid visas. Yup, that's right, Big Brother USA version refuses entry to reporters if they enter the US without having a specific Journalist Visa.

So maybe you should get off that high horse of yours

 

Do we hold them for three days in jail? I have no issues with them denying them entry even though it shows them to not value freedom and speech like the USA.

 

As late as WW1 the US federal government would locked people up for years for speaking out against that war and even for producing a movie that place England in a bad light during our fight with them for independent.

Such was not the end of the US and somehow I think the UK still will exist but they should had just kicked the jokers out by dragging them to the airport not place them behind bars.