US gun culture is 'corrupting the world,'

bull****
How hard was it for the two thugs to beat an 88 year old man to death with flashlights,genius?

 

You live across the pond. All you know is what you read and see on TV. It is like a court of law allowing hearsay to dictate the ruling. A bird chiming in, on an argument amongst cats. Shoo bird.

 

Compared with one of you free spirits shooting up a school, a very long time. Try to fight the American temptation to cover up your lack of arguments with ill-manners: it is boring.

 

Dead is dead,liberal.....no matter the way it was done

Or don't you give a damn about people killed with other than firearms?

 

I point out the obvious: take the guns from the nutters and far fewer people will be murdered. You find that difficult to understand?

 

You point out a fallacy,liberal...thugs will kill each other if they have to use a rusty screwdriver,besides,you have the mistaken thought that the worst that can happen is death....

 

How do you know anything at all if it were not from others? I don't mean any disrespect but I am very curious as to how you obtain your own information.

 

In case you missed it most of the board has you on ignore.

 

Factually you murder four times as many people per head as we do, and the reason is that we take the guns from the nutters, as you know. You can kill people by way of the Chinese water torture, kiddo, but it takes a long time. Stop trying to disprove the obvious by shouting. You have no case. More guns = more death. The law tends rather to frown on your inflicting death on others: if you prefer it for yourself, your choice, lad. And my great-grandfather was the last Liberal in my family: advanced societies have different histories, as you know.

 

I think there is a deeper reason as to why people from other nations are so interested in the American gun debate. All western nations have the same pseudo "representation" when it comes to politics. Globalization bankrupted the world for the sake of the few. So now working class people everywhere are pissed, they finally actually need democracy to work for them and come to find out, democracy is a sham. While the times were good they let the state take their arms, so now in effect, they can do nothing about their situation. And even worse, there's America out there somewhere where the people still have all the guns they want. So globalists take extremely rare, isolated incidents, and throw beacons of light on them. Hoping to convince the pissed off people of their own nations that America is some barbaric society, and if they legalize guns, there's will be too.

Let's face it, those who are familiar with the gun debate on a national level know every angle the anti-gun crowd has tried, has been decimated time and time again. They aren't fighting because they think they will win here. They are fighting to keep the status quo there. Because in the end, the rest of the world isn't lazy when it comes to fighting a corrupt government, and their people armed will bring the house of cards down.

 

Knowledge is important, but must be taken with a grain of salt. I would never argue with someone who has lived the topic at hand, because I've read differently. Many intellectuals make this mistake time and time again. Academia has invoked the self righteousness of the church in the old days. Statistics and 2nd hand accounts don't really add up to anything. They can be a help when people don't look at them as Gospel. But when treated as an infallible science, tend to do more harm than good.

 

Factually we have over four times the population as you do,liberal,and if the end result is the same,doesn't make a difference how long it takes.
And I'm not inflicting death on anyone,I'm doing my best to keep it from happening to me or my family,despite bleeding heart nong-nongs like YOU
Advanced societies,what a laugh.

 

Good day lolo, 2A is a fact. You have no standing is also a fact. If the US is corrupting the world then it seems some in the world wanted this so called corruption to begin with.

Had a crappy year with my vege garden this year and will need to purchase from the local farmers for my canning needs. How is your summer going?

 

I agree with Iolo with a twist. I think that there should be a militia with proper vetting of course. I do not believe that every individual should own guns. Just too many nutters for my liking. I just know that George Zimmerman should not have access to guns and take out his vengeance on other individuals trying to get home from a casual cruise to the mini market. Now, if we had a million or so man militia with arms to match government, I would be ok. I don't mean the Tim McVeigh type. I mean an organized/recognizable militia that could take on the government when it comes to dictating. A bit like a mini UN that actually works of course.

 

Gun Culture isn't responsible for the death of Chris Lane, but it is definitely not helping either.

 

I think our difference of opinion stems from one's perspective of the state. While an armed citizenry is crucial as to tyranny, and your solution would solve that, people have a right to defend themselves, and all must be innocent before proven guilty. Now, there is good and bad in all, and I don't know anyone who doesn't get sick when hearing about a school shooting. But the ramifications for changing the entire set of American principles for that isolated, tragic event, would be far more devastating than a school shooting a year could ever add up to.

As to "nutters", you have born and made. Your solution is ideal for a society where all you are dealing with is born "nutters". However, our government and its 'special interest' owned policies are creating the great majority of our "nutters". Until the out of date system, full of circumvented checks and balances, is replaced with a new, we have no real understanding of what is organic violence and what is manufactured violence, stemming from bad policy. Basically, disenfranchised folks who have given up and snapped.

 

Here is what is specifically enumerated in our supreme law of the land:

 

Apples to oranges. You had fewer before and after your gun ban. You just have fewer freedoms now. Woo Hoo for you.

 

Which of my statements was an affirmation of illegal activity? I don't seem to recall ever once saying I supported illegal arms shipments, perhaps you can refresh my memory, or cease lying about my statements or what I do or do not support. Start using your brain for the logical aspects instead of just the emotional aspects, thanks in advance...

 

The whole idea of the American militia was the belief that select militias like you suggest is acceptable is the most dangerous type of militia. The militia consist of the whole of the people to prevent one group from having the ability to supress another.

While the "natural"right to rebellion was used at the founding of the US. It is not protected by the constitution. The militia is charged with enforcing laws, supressing insurrection, and repeling invasion. The right of rebellion is not the why the militia exist in fact, fighting rebellion is one of it's main purposes. A 100 million member militia is a counter balance to our military. The military fights wars, the militia defends the actual country. There is a select organized militia the national guard that counts as militia when not under federal control.

Not a big fan of the Zimmerman debate both side has issues. However you can not make laws forbidding Zimmerman from having firearms that would not remove the right from most Americans. Even now regardless of your thoughts he has never been convicted of a felony. In a free society sometimes bad things happen but it is better than the alternative.

Mcviegh is another case that is hard to make laws to prevent. He was not a criminal before he killed all those innocent people. A Private milita group even asked him to leave for his extreme views. There will always be wackos and evil no law can change that. Punishing the innocent and leaving them unable to defend themselves will not improve the situation.

 

They banned them in 1996 or 1997.

 

If someone was on top of you pinning you to the ground, prevent you from escaping, raining down blows to your head and face would you shoot him once to make him stop? A simple yes or no will do.

 

Here's an idea for all you hypocrites out there. You don't like American gun culture, don't come to America. Don't accept American aid. Don't dump millions into our gun movies. Don't send your actors to play in our gun movies.

 

No. Because it would be for sport and we would have gloves on.

 

I would not have been following the guy and getting out of my car. I would call in my complaint if there be any such and let the police handle it. End of story.