US invasion of China.

a land war will eventually turn into a nuclear war with both nation destroyed. even if it doesn't turn into nuke war, the casualty will be HUGE. think korean war, that was when china just form, with outdated military weapon, training, no economy or manufacture base, fight in foreign land, logistic was an issues. see how many US solider die in that war. Now china upgrade their weapon, economy and everything else, with chinese nationalism at its peak, think about the casualty when invade a country of 1.3B, size of US, the 3rd military power in the world.

 

and why would russia want to help US? they don't have anything to gain but loss. if china loss, then it will become puppet state of US. russian certainly don't want to increase US power anymore than already is.

 

The first thing the United States should do is to stop relying on China to manufacture everything. In the event of a war, the USA would quickly realise that that most of the materials and components required for its military machines are actually manufactured in China.

 

Why not resurrect Columbus and send him to China? You can sit back and wait less than 60 years.

 

We will never go to war with China. They simply have nothing to gain by going to war and will stand to lose far more if they ever do. The amount of money they get from America far offsets any gains they would get from any military action anywhere.

 

America is committing suicide. The Chinese need only sit back and watch.

 

if china was going to dump all US treasuries and bankrupt america, how would amercia handle a nation of paupers

 

The Han are inured to the endurance of suffering. Americans aren't. America would come apart at the seams.

 

Cut the head off the snake.

Use a CIA plant to sneak a backpack nuke into Beijing and let it off during a major party gathering when all the heads of State are gathered in one place.

Then just sit back and watch as the people, now without a Government, rise up and decide their own fate.

Instant Chinese Spring without the cost of one precious American life.

 

Actually, you are mixing two different events.

The Babylonians are the ones that forced the diaspora. And yes, it was in 587–538 BCE. But it was started under the reign of King Nebuchadnezzar, and continued until the destruction of the Babylonian Empire, by the Persians, led by Cyrus the Great.

And this is not to be confused with the earlier Assyrian Captivity of Israel, which was in 740 BCE. These groups were never released, and eventually blended into the general population. This is where the legends of the "Lost Tribes" come from.

The Romans did something similar, but in a more businesslike manner. First, around 1 million jews were killed in the fighting and the aftermath.

With the cities destroyed, most others migrated to other areas (including as far as Central Africa).

Then as many as 150,000 were dispursed throughout the Empire as slaves, between 20-50,000 to Rome itself. Below is a well known part of the Arch of Titus, celebrating the victory in Judea.



It shows a representation Roman soldiers bringing into Rome the Jewish Treasures, as well as Jewish slaves. And the Arch (along with other buildings of the era, including the Flavian Ampitheatre).

 

yup......american is a nation of people that never missed a meal in their lives.....I doubt they can handle such an event!

 

I feel like the last of the Mohicans.

 

You are both right. The U.S. doesn't have the resolve right now to undergo expansionism. The U.S. does have technological superiority, more than one country has had over their peers at any time in history. The U.S. should expand, though I wouldn't go for China right away, if ever. First I would take over the rest of the Americas. Then, when we get invisibility technology we could think about taking China over. I think it is possible to take China over right now if they didn't have any help, but there would be more deaths than the public is willing to accept. Japan was able to take over large parts of China during World War 2, and we probably have about the same advantage over them that the Japanese had. There are a lot of easier and more beneficial areas to take over first, so I wouldn't invade China right now.

 

Would you rather be taken over by China or be involved in a nuclear war?

 

you do realize that such a dangerous act would start a nuclear war right? Its one thing to attack a third world mickey mouse nations....its entirely different when you start attacking nations that threaten the very global peace of all nations!

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is like someone who lost an arm thinking the guy with two arms would never be able to handle it. We are all humans in that regard. No one looks to struggle because they are tougher and want to prove it. You do what the (*)(*)(*)(*) you got to do. Americans and Chinese included. If you think Americans couldn't wear lampshades and live in tunnels you're nuts.

 

Not necessarily. Would China really want to get involved in a nuclear war with the U.S. no matter how desparate they are? I don't think so. The U.S. has a lot more nuclear weapons and ICBM's.

 

you saw the chaos after hurricane katrina......now imagine an event 100 times greater.......are you sure americans can handle it?

 

Starting a nuclear war in a war of occupation is stupid. Well, unless you believe you have a superior race and want to populate the land with that race.

 

ask yourself this...if a nation ( the US included) was backed into a corner you really think the nuclear option wont be considered?

 

in a nuclear war there will be no race left !

 

And you see tornadoes in the Midwest with none of that crap. America is vast. Tons of different areas, filled with different demographics. Her might and determination to be the best not to be underestimated. There is no collapse for centuries to come. We are just seeing the decline of the system made for the noble class. In comes the dictator, supreme nationalism, WW3. All that good stuff.

 

the US shall have its biggest test in either 2012 or 2013.....personally I doubt the US will even remain intacked after that main event.

PS if you cant see that the US is fast approaching a debt wall similar to greece now and the USSR 20 years ago then there is no hope for any of you

 

Bacardi, you as well as I know our money isn't real. You do realize Germany suffered hyperinflation, 50% unemployment, and when nationalists got control, they told the bankers to shove their "debt" up their ass, and the nation was a world power within 4 years? LOL. Bankers and their debt only have your nation by the balls so long as their puppets are in the state.

 

Actually, they already held a large part of China for decades before the war even broke out. First their protected terriroties after the Boxer Rebellion, then that attained after the Russian-Japanese War, then that held by Germany after World War I.

And during the time of World War II, China was undergoing a civil war of it's own. On one side you had the various warlords, who were trying to hold onto their power against all other groups.

Then you had the Koumintang, or the Chinese Nationalist Party. This was the power in the early post-monarchy days. And many do not realize, but they are also a Communist organization, and both formed their government based on and worked closely with the Soviet Union.

Then you had the Chinese Communist Party, which is actually a splinter group that formed out of the Koumintang. Both the Koumintang and the Soviet Union tried to prevent the split, but by 1927, the split was to great and they started to fight among themselves.

Japan would not have had as easy of a time capturing large parts of China if they had a unified government. The Loumintang controlled mostly the large cities, and the Chinese Communist Party mostly controlled the countryside. And all three organizations would both work with each other, and fight against each other.

On one day, the KMT and CCP might cooperate to stage an ambush on a Japanese convoy. Then the next week the KMT might turn over to the Japanese the location of a CCP base camp. Then the week after the CCP would help the Japanese stage an ambush against the KMT.

And as much as Japan may have thought they controlled large parts of the country, their actual control was actually much less. The Chinese peasants were largely apathetic as to who controlled them. There was even one time period where KMT Generals kidnapped Chiang Kai-Shek, and forced him to form a popular front with the CCP.

But that was really in name only. The Civil War lasted from 1927-1950.