US Using IllegaI Chemical Weapons in Syria

Don Rumansky and also Destroyer of Illusion for example...

 

We could continue on and on.. Reagan supporting Saddam while he was using poison gas against Iran and his own people, The 50 year blood feud in Israel.

In many of these cases it is not so much the killing of innocents or the doing of dirty deeds that is most vile, lets face it war can be ugly - what is most vile is trying to pretty up these vile and ugly deeds "collateral damage - human shields" = intentional killing of innocent people, or covering up what we do (or painting a false picture) while overly dramatic demonization of "the other - those who are not our allies" for doing the same thing.

It is trying to pretend that something is vile when the other guy does it but, not when we do it that is most vile.

 

Correct!

That's all this fact is one thing and sad enough!
The annoying thing is that the hypocrisy is often accompanied by arrogance and stupidity. What I mean is ...
As soon as any side begins to blame anybody else for whatever, and then you put them them the mirror in front of their nose to their own bad things, they deny all or they come with a bunch of "what, if, but ..." arguments to justify it !

This is about the use of WP weapons as far as the USA is concerned and the accusation of how bad the US is and then also with pictures that were shown years ago for other incidents as "evidence" which had nothing to do with the US ... for example When Israel used WP weapons against HAMAS.
Nice ... just not a word about the fact that Russalnd also uses WP weapons in Syria and supplies Assad also with WP weapons, e.g. In Aleppo! Look at the reaction to this fact from the "Pro-Russia" faction and see what I mean!

Or another example ...
The US and the USA people in general are so attacking Iran a state of unrighteousness, and the fact that Iran applies the Sharia, which, as we all know, contains draconic and inhuman punishments such as stoning, whipping, hand hacking, etc.
Nice ... but just not a single word about Saudi Arabia, which also applies the Sharia with same sort of bestially penalties because Saudi Arabia is, of course, a friend and ally, and no one criticizes or accuse a friend!

 

Majority of the deaths of brown people are at the hands of other brown people.

 

Really nothing to discuss. The Conventions on chemical weapons don't include white phosphorous in its list of banned chemical weapons.

 

That we arm and train

 

Correct ... but Napalm is only no on this list, but was banned by the US in the past too.
However, I think we 2 can agree that there are weapons in use which are horrific if they hit civilians, no matter if allowed or not ... and that not only the USA is using WP, but many others like Russia too?

 

Oh, right - because without Russia mentioned a munition that burns through flesh like through butter and poisons people to vomiting their insides out is not horrible enough.

 

No, but it is already hypocritical to attack the evil US for the use of WP and to put it even worse when your own military forces are deploying the same WP and against the same targets with the same civilian victims! Or do you have another opinion?

 

Well, article told about USA using it, and I based my judgement on it. Regardless, I AM against such ammunition being used in war.


And this is disturbing part. I am sincerely, frankly sure majority of citizens of my country would agree with me. But USA.. Disturbs me. Look at the "would've you dropped nukes" poll on this exact forum. People just.. Accept this, as long as it would keep war away from their homes. Sorry, if I still didn't found the exact correct words to explain that - I feel like we had valuable lesson about things done being not excused, when Union dissoulated and we had major change of ideology. Sort of learned we ARE not better than people who lived in Soviet Union - mainyl because majority of us ARE people who lived in Soviet Union - Union, that is reasponsible for lots of administrative mistakes, criminal decidions, invasion in Poland (twice, by the way), repressions and prosecutions.. That our people allowed to happen in the past, and later excused as "necessary". Then the state for which they were necessary dissoluted, and most of it was just for nothing.

But USA still stands, and people there... Seem to really think it was worth it. Firebombings of Tokyo that burned alive hundreds of people, unarmed civilians. Amnisties for nazy and japanese scientists who conducted horrible human experiments, such as ones from Unit 731. The drops of nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagassaki. That it was "necessary'.


And I live on one planet with these people. These people have nuclear weapons. These people station soldiers at borders of my country.

 

Exactly. In fact Iran is tolerant compared to the land of Saud.

It is Saud, not Iran, who is the author, purveyor and supporter of the extremist Islamist ideology that drives Sunni Islamist extremists such as Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Front, Al Shabaab and various others in places such as Pakistan, India, and other parts o the world.

It is a joke to say we are serious about fighting terrorism when the main supporter and sponsor of these terrorists is one of our closest allies and we are too afraid to call a spade a spade.

 

Thought so ... 911 truthers will believe anything.

 

We are by no means perfect but to compare our recent actions to Nazis is just silly.

Just keep in mind that US Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines committed many of these very same acts you find so very painful today, and much more, during WWII. They did horrible things you would consider war crimes today.

Defeating people like ISIS and their jihadi pals is an ugly process. Perspective is needed here ... not the history of now.

BTW, actual invaders of sovereign nations, like the Nazis, do not return the invaded nation back to the people ... Liberators do that. I do not doubt that you believe there is "hard evidence" to back up your beliefs and that anyone who doubts your beliefs would be a hypocrite.

I agree ... we the people are failing to maintain the Republic.

 

You're right, it is way more than just smoke.

WP rounds and grenades are also extremely effective against bunkers and hardened fighting positions. They can also be used to mark hostile targets, to mark friendly forces to avoid friendly fire, and to make tracer and incendiary ammunition.

It's also great for creating a huge smokescreen to hide troop movements and prevent their being observed by enemy mortar/artillery spotters or snipers.

 

The United States create terrorists and provoking civil wars in order to have an excuse to invade. The purpose of the invasion is to establish a pro-American regime. Farting about freedom for the people is all fairy tales for fools.

 

I prefer the phrase to establish a pro-peaceful regime ... one that can now join the other peaceful nations of the world or keep to themselves.

Yeah ... the US has never liberated any nation and returned it to the people who live there ... only a fool would believe that.

 

I'm Bob, not a convenient label. If I believed anything, I would believe the official 9/11 narrative without question just like you hypocrite.

 

You want to annihilate over 300 million people because of the actions of their government that over 300 million people have little or no control over?

 

Once again I didn't say that ... you did.

 

Read again who I quoted, it wasn't a response to your post.

 

They can get 10,000 Iranians to chant the above in unison. He is probably a Muslim.

 

People take over government buildings in many parts of the world, from Ukraine to Greece and from there to Brazil because whether they got brainwashed or not they believed that their government must go and acted like they wanted so... If Israeli and American people can't make such stand, then that means they are the "accomplices" which means there's not much to do about them... Can't cry over spilled milk... Sorry...

 

His profile says he's from Istanbul, Turkey. This is about humanity, not religion. Anyone who desires to wipe out millions of innocent human beings or even just one for actions by a few others not under their control is a barbarian. I don't care how many Iranians chant, it doesn't mean all Muslims are barbarians. And many who are have been indoctrinated by their perceived authority, they need to be re-educated, not murdered.

 

I'm agnostic DICKson... No bigotry here but can't say the same for you there...

Jesus is a total bullshit story because he never lived. All he was is little bit of Buddha, little bit of Mythra, little bit of Horus, little bit of lettuce, little bit of tomato and easy mc sauce... That's it... It's also called holy sh.it...

 

That's absolutely false. All human beings have the capacity to be educated that murder is not an answer to anything. I'm an American and I am vehemently opposed to this government's genocidal agenda. I am not in any position to stop it but I sure as hell am no accomplice to these crimes against humanity.

You mean spilled blood. I'm sure if it were your loved ones whose blood was spilled you'd be crying unless you have no heart at all.