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US v Concord. DOJ Drops Rosenstein and Mueller’s Nonsense Case Against Russian Company Concord LLC

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stop making things up and self-servingly assigning motives. It was clear at the time and those expressing their non-partisan opinions said this would never go anywhere. It was clearly a desperate "hail-Mary" by Mueller to come up with something, anything to try and justify his investigation.
     
    Bluesguy, Mar 17, 2020
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    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    Or all the allegations are true, it makes no sense to pursue the prosecution and some people are taking Russia’s side.
     
    bx4, Mar 17, 2020
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  3. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    No one's taking Russia side, it's just embarrassing.
     
    icehole3, Mar 17, 2020
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    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    You're wrong. Everyone who is cheering this as a victory is taking Russia's side.

    It's just that most of them don't realize it.
     
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  5. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    I guess in your mind anything is possible.
     
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  6. struth

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    My guess before it's all said and done most every American that was caught up in this hoax will be pardoned.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    Who's taken the Russians side? Who's cheering it as a "victory". Go read the DOJ motion to dismiss. They don't have a great case, subpoenas can be ignored with impunity. Even if they could get a conviction there is no mechanism to enforce. Going to court would expose means and methods and threaten national security.
     
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  8. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    It's why the title says nonsense case.
     
    icehole3, Mar 17, 2020
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doesn't matter if it's a company or individual. It's about the core value of presumed innocence until proven guilty. Either you believe in that or you don't...
     
    Dispondent, Mar 17, 2020
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    I believe he is talking about the Due Process clause of the 14th....
     
    struth, Mar 17, 2020
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  11. Egoboy

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    Well, we can argue this minute point all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that this company has not been declared innocent OR not guilty.

    And won't be..

    Glad you root for anti-American entities, BTW...
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing to argue. Either they are presumed innocent until proven guilt or they aren't. I'll stick with the values enshrined in Constitution...
     
    Dispondent, Mar 17, 2020
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    Russiagate was pure political theater. Mueller is a government man performing as he was instructed.

    Concord Management called the government's bluff. An easy call.
     
    Eleuthera, Mar 17, 2020
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    Really?

    SNIP
    The idea of being innocent until proven guilty does not appear in any of the Constitutional amendments, but is, in fact, a part of common law. It is not a right granted by the Constitution.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.reference.com/world-vie...innocent-until-proven-guilty-1c7ae0495fa5128d
     
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    Dispondent, Mar 17, 2020
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    Innuendo and bullshit may convince you, but for me, all it shows is what a hoax the entire Russiagate thing was.

    Still, many Democrats will continue to admire the emperor's new clothes, even though he is butt nekkid.
     
    Eleuthera, Mar 17, 2020
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    It is a value and a good one... just one that's not in the Constitution, so try not to use falsehoods and misdirections to back up your values and we won't have a problem......
     
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    This was the inevitable outcome of a case they couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt, using means and methods as their excuse for not prosecuting the case. As noted, they do have an irrelevant 13 indictments that they for the same reasons won't push forward, but hey we DID SOMETHING.

    Can we prosecute Mueller for fraud? Or Rosenstein? 33 million dollars. That's a lot of hospital beds we could have right now.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Mar 17, 2020
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    It is that value that is the basis of many of our rights. Ignore such as you wish. It's still a free country...
     
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    What don't you get about they didn't have a case and even if they did they could not enforce subpoenas or any legal penalty?
     
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    Does Witch Hunt
    have any meaning today?
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    Moi621, Mar 17, 2020
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    His errand boy Barr Barr Black sheep dropped the case for Dirty Donald and his immediate supervisor Vlad the Bad.
     
    61falcon, Mar 17, 2020
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    the DOJ is under Putin's puppet Trump's control - no surprise here
     
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    I agree, the Orange man is bad...
     
    FreshAir, Mar 17, 2020
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    this backs up nothing, just shows Barr is under Trump's control
     
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