Utah Senate Votes to Repeal 17th Amendment......

In a bit of unusual news, the Utah Senate voted 20-6 to ask Congress to repeal the 17th Amendment of the Constitution. The 17th Amendment allows for the direct election of senators. The bill's sponsor, Sen. Al Jackson (R-Highland) argued that the 17th Amendment was not what the founders of the country had intended and changed the meaning of the role of the senators.

Its sponsor, Sen. Al Jackson, R-Highland, says electing senators by the state Senate is needed because no branch of the federal government now represents the needs of state governments. A change would force senators to do that.

"Today, senators are more beholden to special interest groups than to their states" because those interests give them money for reelection, Jackson said.

He added, "It's time for our senators to come home every weekend and take direction from this body and from the House and the governor on how they should vote in the upcoming week.".....snip~

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christ...enate-votes-to-repeal-17th-amendment-n2124613


This will go nowhere. But he does bring up a good point. What do you think, maybe he should push for a 2/3rd of the Country to join in on this and not just leave it to Utah. What say ye?

 

I agree 100% with him. I think I will write my state senator to sponsor such a bill.

 

I like it. It will give us more pull in upholding the 10th Amendment as well.

 

I do to.....we need more States to get in on this though. Also, I would be about limiting them to 2 Terms 5 years each. If they can't get anything done within a decade. They aren't worth keeping around.

 

State governments do need a voice in Washington, without their check things have become unbalanced.

 

I totally agree. Senators today are beholden to special interest group and to their political party, not their states. The House was designed to represent the people and the senate the states according to the framers. With the 17th amendment, that is no longer the case. I applaud Utah.

 

"To ask Congress"

That's pretty different that "votes to repeal."

 

I also agree.... State Legislatures, voted in by that States voters and immune from outside influence, was the original intent. I will disagree, term limits are needed, especially in this case, since those State legislatures should judge the current needs, which is the base for the 10th A....

 

Amen, brother.

 

Yes. We need 33 more States to call for the same.

The Senate was intended to be the House of Congress that represented the State Legislatures. And with the Senate's role in confirming Judges, it meant that Judges were confirmed that were committed to Federalism. Since the States have lost their House of Congress, Judges are no longer as respectful of State Rights.

The States need their House of Congress back, and this is the way to bridge the divide between the State Legislatures and an increasingly distant, out of touch, Federal government.

 

Kudos to the great State of Utah for restoring some States' rights perspective, with the general government.

 

Anyone who knows their ass from applebutter knows that the US of A was set up as a system of checks and balances. When the Federal Government was set up it had an Executive, which was strictly Federal, a Senate which was under the control of the States, and a Congress which was answerable directly to the people of their district. The 17th amendment was the next step after the Civil War to strip all power from the States within the Federal Government and thus to alter the checks and balances within the system.

It is no coincidence that the 17th amendment was passed at the same time as the Federal Reserve Act and the 16th amendment. Combined they amount to a coup d'état of the government and the end of freedom and self determination for the American people.

 

Oh, pleeze - the only reason Repubs want they 17thy repealed is because they've gerrymandered enough states to lock in those votes by state legislators, then they can use their big money donators to go after the others. They'll then have total control of the federal government except for the presidency and that's real close right now. When that happens, we will officially become a plutocracy. Amen.

 

The Utah Senate has reached as new level of idiocy. Lmfao.

 

So....does this mean that you are for Repealing the 17th Amendment? What about the Kudos for the Repub that came up with idea?

 

republicans do not want the people to pick there Senators, they want the State to pick for them?

 

Ahh the Gerrymandering talking point /facepalm

 

common sense, only reason the right would want the state to choose rather then the people of the state

 

Yes, I am in favor of restoring, States' rights, via our original, political process. Kudos to the party doing more than just talk.

 

The states have no representation in Washington. They are required to do as the fed says without a voice. And let's not pretend republicans are the only party taking advantage of gerrymandering but I forgot only the other guy is evil when it comes to partisans.

 

States used to choose. It is part of the Doctrine of Separation of Powers. Popular elections for the Senate remove than "arbitrage power" from the States in favor of the federal government. Now, our Senate gives the perception of being functionaries of FedGov.

 

The people of the state dont choose if the people getting the most support are all corporate backed.

Both parties use Gerrymandering as much as they can.. Both parties only complain about the other party doing it.. Its one of the reasons our two party system are a complete joke.

 

That was the Idea.....which still the people voted in their Senators. But it was the State Senate that would decide who goes to D.C.

They should add on a consequence for being Censured and Called home. Like.....you are done in DC. We will be sending so and so now.

Problem comes in when they are Chairs of whatever Committees, in DC. Especially Intel and Arms.

 

When the state legislature or the governor, it was up to the states how they choose their senators. They did have the power to recall and remove if the senator didn't follow state instructions. Thus the states had a say in what went on in Washington. Not anymore. To make the 10th amendment meaningful again, the 17th has to be repealed or as stated, senators are not more than political party tools and bend to the will of lobbyist and special interests with the money instead of their state interest and the will of the people of that state.

 

That's Right they both do.....Illinois and Cook County, Chicago. Validates that.