Vaporize the Kaaba to reduce potential # of Jihadist recruits?

Just like Ra doesn't protect any Eqyptian religious sites dedicated to him, if "God" doesn't protect any sites dedicated to himself it's because he simply isn't actually real - or he'd care for "his children" enough, respect us enough, to of course have provided court-room level of evidence for his existence. Just like Bigfoot, and Ra, and Nessie, "god" doesn't provide said evidence.

 

But doing so would pretty much legitimize their anger and would bring all muslims together . Thats the main problem behind it. It would be the ultimate recruiting ad and it would be very successful.

 

Too bad these people don't believe in the Scientific Method, and instead believe that magic is real.

 

It wouldn't save lives.. it would just incite more violence.. You are not particularly bright. You must be a very unimportant person to spend all your time here trashing all religion.

Have you ever traveled or experienced other cultures?

 

Then would it be official, this war, and then we could declare war, and get it over quicker, as opposed to the pin-prick strikes that we are being hit with every day around the world?

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I'm experiencing your culture, which apparently comes from a fairly wide variety of places. Do I need to visit every country in the world to read the Qur'an/Bible and the horrors therein?

 

I did know that you felt that way, and I'm not saying you're wrong to believe that way, that's why I made it hypothetical. So hypothetically, if it did work (again, it certainly might not), to reduce the adherents of Islam by that 75 million figure, how many infidel lives would that have to save for you to be on board?....what if it reduced the number if Infidel deaths by, say, 1 million....would that be worth it? 75 million people leave Islam to save the lives of 1 million infidels....I assume that you of course would be on board with that - save 1 million lives if 75 million people find a new religion. Seems like a worthwhile (hypothetical) to me. What about you? Do you value human life or loyalty to an ancient book the most, Margot?

 

I read a good argument that the current kaaba is not the original kaaba, the original supposedly was just a cornerstone and not an entire house and was lost hundreds of years ago during a sectarian conflict.

 

Muslims seem to always be fighting/killing each other....that's why W's policy of democratization of Iraq (a good idea if Muslims were peaceful and loved freedom/democracy) failed. Mohammad advocated totalitarian political schemes (like ISIS, obviously), so in 1400 years the amount of democracy in Islam is quite small, relative to the totalitarianism.

PS to be fair, JESUS wasn't smart enough to simply say these words: "democracy is the way, not monarchies - I was wrong previously to believe in monarchies/totalitarian political schemes." Sadly he was not too bright.

 

Either that, or caring enough to want to free people from the fear, immorality, extremism, and unscientific nonsense from religion.

 

Jesus wasn't primarily a political figure. I'm not aware of universal suffrage democracy even existing in that time period.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masjid_al-Haram

 

After one more incident like 9-11, I would be willing to at least consider it.

 

What is MY culture in Atlanta, Georgia?

 

Gosh, heck a doodle, you'd think that if Jesus was smart enough to know all about heaven/hell and could cure death and cure lepers and cast out demons and know what "god" was thinking and whose birth was divinely inspired that he'd be smart enough to know that people voting is better than people ruling over other people. But I guess we shouldn't expect too much from someone like Jesus who accepted slavery (the most barbaric practice in world history).

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Your "culture" is a result of you living in all the places you've lived in.

PS your culture won't condemn Mohammad for saying to crucify, yes crucify, people in Q5:33, so I'm not particularly impressed with your culture, I gotta say....sorry. I do like your enthusiasm on this forum, though.

 

What about a nuclear meltdown in Belgium, which would make a part of Europe un-inhabitable?
Or how about even a fraction of the 400+ Mohammad-loving-Paradise-virgin-seeking suicide bombers (that AP reported are likely now in Europe ready to unleash unprecidented carnage not seen since Hitler) "go full Muslim"?
http://fox6now.com/2016/03/23/ap-is...-sending-them-into-europe-for-terror-attacks/

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Have you ever read the brutal, barbaric, illogical, women-hating, slavery-loving, torture-loving, violent parts of the Qur'an?

 

Thank God someone on this site actually opened and read the books they had in school. Anyone with historical smarts knows it was Truman who gave the nuke orders. Thank you for correcting this ridiculous post item.

 

Look man, you will find very few people who would love to see nothing more than Islamic terrorists get obliterated and choke to death on their own blood and then have their graves pissed on. But I can't agree with just bombing a target where innocent people including women and children are near.

Yes the (*)(*)(*)(*) tht is going on now is bad, but how many innocent people do you think will suffer in reprisal? How many children are you willing to sacrifice to go through with this? Because there will be a lot and that kind of war you are talking about will end up with billions dead who had nothing to do with any of this. It will make WW2 look like a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing paintball tournament.

No instead what needs to be done, if we are going to actually hit groups like ISIS as well as make a point of what awaits future terrorist groups, we send in our military full force and fully supplied with everything they need. No holding back and giving "politics" a big middle finger and let them go in hard and devastating . Which means kill all on sight, no prisoners taken and I don't care if they have their hands up waving white flags, they die and all get shoved into a mass grave ignoring their burial rituals.

Then we do the same with Boko Haram, Al Qaeda and any other terrorists on the watch lists. DOn't give them room to breath or anything, just keep nailing the bastard to the wall until they get the picture.

Stop the BS and let our soldiers do what they are trained to do and screw off with the PC BS and diplomacy.

 

Wake up man, what makes you think these women and children are innocent? They too are indoctrinated into the mantra of destroying us. If they are close to the target, that's too (*)(*)(*)(*)in bad.

 

I say no. There are consequences involved with the use of nuclear weapons, much of which most people have no idea of. People tend to forget that radioactive clouds do not conveniently stop at the country's borders and the affected countries who have nukes in stock might decide to fire some at us for contaminating their country and thus killing potentially millions of people.

 

No I can't go with that. Im not having that on my conscience .

But don't cry when they start targeting your kids and other kids schools in retaliation. We are supposed to protect our citizens and children, you are going to make them easy targets.

 

We and our wives and children already are easy targets...have been for decades. Don't YOU cry when their offspring grow up and continue killing for Allah. Take'em all out.

 

Well bombing mecca will damn near guarantee it comes for you. As many cells we know of and the ones we don't that are in this country, what do you think is going to happen?

If thats what you want that will guarantee a reply in kind that will hit all over the country then I suggest you get in front of the line. DOnt (*)(*)(*)(*)ing be part of ordering a huge mass murder that will indeed incite a billion muslims then hide your ass in your bathroom while we are targeted .

No offense, but bombing Mecca has to be one of the stupidest (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ideas I have ever had to discuss. We turn 16%-21% into 90% of pissed off muslims looking to kill and get revenge.

 

YOU mentioned Mecca, not I. I'm for going after specific targets of bad guys, not an entire religion.

I won't be hiding, I'll be easy to find. Best not to call people cowards or stupid when you know nothing about them. If you don't want to fight, step aside or behind those who will.

 

Well first of all, the target of discussion in this thread is Kaaba is a damned mosque in the dead center of Mecca, so yeah you are talking bombing Mecca and obliterating it.

Strategic bombing on actual hostile targets , yeah., but what you are suggesting is pissing off the whole hornets nest.

And sorry but Arizona is not going to be on top of those lists when muslims want to go off. Think LA, DC, NYC, and more important major cities. Arizona wont have much of a target on it's back until way later while others get to suffer for a very poor decision.

I guess its easy to sacrifice children, when they are not your own. What about kids and citizens that live in places like Dearborn or Chicago? ready to sacrifice them?

And you know what they say about courage and stupidity right? It's a very very thin line.

 

I wouldn't blow up a:

Kaaba

Christian Church

Jewish Synagogue

Catholic Church

Buddhist Temple

Monk Monastery

Protestant Church

Presbyterian Church

Celtic Paganism Temple

Hindu Temple

Muslim Mosque

Jehovah Witness Church

Scientology Center

Wiccan Temple or Church or Woods or wherever it is the hell they meet............

Because it's all insanity to even suggest or think such a thing.