Venezuela military runs over demonstrators ABC Video

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  1. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please name one socialist country in Europe? By definition of socialist, there are NONE.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    CNN "followed" a sham investigation into a sham conspiracy theory just as InfoWars "followed" a sham investigation into a sham conspiracy theory.

    Not only are the crackpots at CNN no better than the crackpots at InfoWars, the crackpots in CNN's audience are no better than the crackpots in InfoWars' audience. Both sets of crackpots are willing to give the crackpots who lied to them a pass because they fed them the lies they wanted to hear.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    JakeStarkey cannot define socialism, but he can avoid inconvenient questions, move goalposts and put the RWers he can't debate on Ignore. :smile:

     
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    Venezuela and its revolution will endure under the proven leadership of vice president Nicolas Maduro.
    -Sean Penn


    I mourn a great hero to the majority of his people and those who struggle throughout the world for a place.
    -Oliver Stone on Chavez’s death


    Hugo fed the hungry. He lifted the poor. He raised their hopes. He helped them realize their dreams. And, so, today we do mourn, because we’ve lost a lot. But we have a lot left – a stable government, an orderly transition.
    -Jesse Jackson


    Oil “eliminating 75 percent of extreme poverty” while “[providing] free health and education for all”.
    -Michael Moore, 2009


    I’ve been here for 24 hours and I’m amazed to see the love and encouragement for the social programs that you have here for women and children in Venezuela.
    -Naomi Campbell


    It’s difficult for a leader like him to exist in these times. His vision for humanity and the world can only be compared to that of leaders like Nelson Mandela. He was a great man and I cried when he died.
    -Danny Glover


    Socialism hasn’t been done right.
    -Useful Idiots
     
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    fyi, congress called for the investigation
     
  6. JakeStarkey

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    Lack of context, Louisiana75. You talk about Venezuela yet ignore western Europe. Context.
     
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    The US government would do the same thing to rebels. Just ask the south.
     
  8. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not quite sure what you're doing in this entire thread but you're not making sense.

    I will ask yet again, name one country that is by definition socialist in Europe.
     
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  9. JakeStarkey

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    I am this thread's OP in context.

    The of context statements judging all forms of "socialism" by Venezuela form a fallacy of hasty generalization. That is, judging all by one.

    If we judged all Republicans by Trump, there would be very few Republicans in office.
     
  10. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still ignoring my question I see. It's ok, I'd do the same if I were you.
     
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    Your question? It make no sense. Put the OP into context, which you so far have refused to do. It is meaningless other than corrupt politicians in Venezuela destroyed the economy.

    Tell us about western Europe and socialism.

    Tell us about how socialism can mitigate the ills of unfettered capitalism.

    "Socialism" as a GOP campaign talking point is meaningless, because Americans are not afraid of it.
     
  12. Louisiana75

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    Give up Jake.

    I asked twice to name one country in Europe that is a true socialist country and you say that makes no sense and then babble some stuff about context.

    Nice try though.
     
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    Give up Louisiana75. Don't you know about democratic socialism in Europe, a mixture of social policy and regulated capitalism? Why are you so afraid of it? It works well.

    You still can't answer in context so you can be ignored.
     
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    JakeStarkey, It's as if you're in a different dimension somewhere and you're the only one there.
     
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    Louisiana75, you can duck and weave and yell 'squirrel', yet you always trip and fall.
     
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    What did I duck and weave from? You stated more than once about socialist countries in Europe. When I asked you multiple times to name one, you said my question didn't make sense and then started saying it was "I" who won't answer questions. I don't know if you're high or if you're 10, but you've proven to me and anyone else reading this thread that you're completely irrelevant and lack basic discussion and debate skills.

    I'm done with this discussion with you.
     
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    I said you were ignoring western Europe and only talking about Venezuela.

    Your comments are fallacies of hasty generalization and confirmation bias.

    You have to do more than make an assertion and then ask questions.

    The OP is a failure of condemning all socialism, because it is a hasty generalization.
     
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    I think all of the Americans who supported Venezuela should go there now to defend the demonstrators.

    Bring lots of flowers.

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    LOL

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    You are this thread's Longshoreman of Fail.

    Your posts in this thread have been an endless stream of logical fallacies - red herrings, strawmen, deflections and evasions. In fact, it's an insult to Logic itself to use the term in reference to what you think passes for it in your posts.

    For example, this smoking train wreck you submitted:

    "If we judged all Republicans by Trump, there would be very few Republicans in office."

    Evidently, the implications of the simple observation that Republican Donald J. Trump got elected President of the United States and Democrat Hillary Clinton did not escapes you.

    If every Republican enjoyed Trump's success, there wouldn't be a single Democrat in office. :lol:
     
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    He's also missing the spectacular demonstration of socialism failing.

    But he's just here to distract.

     
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    :roflol:

    Some people....err ummm....did something....
     
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    lousy right wing management does that.

    Capitalism already failed in 1929.
     
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    if Chavez was still alive this would not be happening. Maduro was nothing more than Chavez's lap dog. Most VP's make lousy presidents. Venezuela has oil, fertile soil for aggriculture and plenty of fishing with a small population that could have made the country a socialist success. I was in Venezuela with the US Coast Guard before their capitalist economy and I can tell you many were very unhappy with their living standard. Like Americans Venezuelans just wanted a bigger piece of the pie. Unfortunately the real leader, Chavez, died too soon after starting his new government.
     
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    It is clear you do not understand what are hasty generalizations or confirmation bias.

    The extremist rwnjs merely point at one example (socialism in Venezuela) and pronounce all other forms of socialism a failure without evidence. That is F thinking. When you extremists on the rw can carry an argument, I will note it.

    You have not. :)
     
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    No, the face of yet another US coup attempt of a legitimately elected government.
     

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