Virginia house passes national popular vote bill.

Head of government. No western democracy popularly elects its head of government.
Most heads of state in western democracies are monarchs.

As a well-educated, highly-intelligent man of the world; I'd expect you to know this.

 

This is just one of a number of attacks on the Constitution that Democrats have been carrying on because they determined that the Constitution stands in the way of much of what they want -- including having absolute continuous totalitarian political power and authority. Watch the blue states have their "OH! S__T! moment this year when a Republican gets the overwhelming popular vote for president.

 

That's exactly what this BS is, Rod - a blatant attempt to undermine, circumvent and violate the Constitution - which is why I think this legislation doesn't stand a prayer in court.

The farcical thing about this is that it comes from the poseurs who pretend to be the guardians of the Constitution - a document, ironically enough, that was written with power-hungry authoritarians like them in mind.

 

So you're saying those aren't democracies.....

And you support the oligarchs defining our leadership ?

 

Um...no.

Most states have laws as to who those delegates have to vote for. But every state has changed their EC votes to winner take all, which means that after the states are gerrymandered for their state delegates, they are also gerrymandered for EC votes. So you have the state delegates who were gerrymandered now voting for POTUS

 

Nope.
I stated the facts I stated.

 

They've been doing it since 1861.

 

We are a democratic republic......so you apparently think the founding fathers got it wrong ?

 

You asked a question.
I answered it:
And so... in most western democracies, -no one- elects the head of government.
You do not need to like this fact, but it remains a fact.

 

It is right in the text of the Constitution. The 10th Amendment doesn't change or impact Article 4 Section 4

Virginia Democrats are just standing in line behind other folks who hate the context of the Constitution as it was written.

 

The point you're trying to make works for the state government and House. But Senators aren't supposed to represent people and the President represents everyone. Senators should be appointed by state governments and presidents elected by national popular vote. State level electoral concerns should be limited to the state itself.

 

Domestically, as the head of government, the President represents -no- one.
Internationally, as head of state, he represents the United States.
So... no.

 

Oh puh-leeze, nobody cares what their state does and they haven't since the Civil War. For that matter why should I care what anyone votes for except me? One man, one vote, right?

 

Then you should be against this.

 

You are absolutely correct. They use and hide behind the Constitution to destroy it.

Unfortunately I don't think the electoral vote changes some states are making violates the wording of the Constitution -- though it does violate the intent.

 

So... Yes.

 

The United States... and The People of the United States... are, conceptually and legally, separate entities.
You're back to ... no.

 

Why? I'm for the popular election of Presidents

 

That is correct. But after a heavy spurt in the 1920s they got on steroids in 2008 and tripled their dosage in 2016.

 

For and by the people. So I'm back to... Yes.

 

You're not.

 

Because in the system Virginia and other states want to implement is simple.. Your vote does not matter.. Only California and NY do.

 

That's not how this works. NOW they decide with their massive EC numbers. With a popular vote a Dem in Kansas and a Repub in California actually has their vote matter.

 

Senators represent the people of the state that elected them. Those that don't will soon be gone (Romney).

 

No, that's a Representative. A Senator represents the state government, like a UN ambassador.