Vote anybody, but Donald Trump

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These total troll new political threads are getting tiresome.
     
  2. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has had multiple bankruptcies and failed business ventures and is a trust fund baby to start with. Why are you giving him do much credit? He's also a habitual liar and runs con games, one of which he is currently being sued for as a racketeer and rightly so. Like someone said...Trump is the candidate of zero policy and instead is the candidate of ranting and raving. I guess you are impressed and sucked in by the ranting and raving.
     
  3. eddie228

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    If you think this Country is fine, you must be living up in the mountains somewhere, I'd expect a comment like that from Scott Kelly, not anybody down here.
     
  4. eddie228

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    yeh your right, instead of cashing in off his status with wall street and special interest, instead he's out there talking about jobs and saving the middle class, even self funding for god's sake, who does stupid stuff like that anymore.
     
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    Don't forget this tidbit of business history about Trump -- "How Donald Trump Helped Save New York City"

    http://nypost.com/2016/02/07/how-donald-trump-helped-save-new-york-city/

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    Yeah , I noticed you haven't added much .
     
  7. eddie228

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    that's not true, he's contributed a great deal to this country, and employed a lot of people over the years, you can actually touch and see the buildings he has built all over the United States deadlines, budgets, allowing insurance across state lines would make a world of difference relating to cost, ask yourself what does a shell like Rubio know about anything doesn't even show up for work?, or some Canadian wall street shill like Cruz other them printed marching orders from wall street donors. that's not going to be good for people like us. please wake up

    This Trump bashing is really creepy and obsessively odd. why do that to yourself?, you should be trying to get a guy like this elected, not tearing him down with lies and misinformation. your better then that.
     
  8. Mom

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    Isn't it alarming that he is the Republican front-runner? Isn't it surprising that there ARE lot of people supporting him??
    I am scared of him becoming the President.:hiding:
     
  9. Natty Bumpo

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    Widespread concern that an inexperienced entertainment celebrity who is supported by neo-nazis, ku klux klansmen, and other white supremacists could be elected president isn't odd at all.

    It's such a distressing possibility that even Republicans leaders are considering "bashing" the demagogue to prevent the Democratic take-over of the US Senate that his candidacy could facilitate.

     
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    Not to worry, when he becomes president the entire country will have the same credibility and intelligence as reality TV.
     
  11. CourtJester

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    Trump is a direct result of the Republican hierarchy deciding eight years to do nothing positive to help the country and instead to spend all their efforts in thwarting Obama and making him look bad. So now even appearing to be a Republican establshment candidate is the kiss of death with voters.
     
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    So you are already saying Trump will be president?
     
  13. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Terrorist are circling us like sharks, wages are down, college grads can't find jobs, food stamps use is at a record high, trade defecits are at record highs and blacks are worse off than ever and so are race relations. Great?
     
  14. Mom

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    Terrorists are a problem to every single country in the world, including the middle-eastern countries.

    The average wage only seemed to have gone up in the last 5 years.
    2010 41,673.83
    2011 42,979.61
    2012 44,321.67
    2013 44,888.16
    2014 46,481.52

    Unemployment rate ACTUALLY went down from 10% to 5%
    2010 9.8
    2011 9.1
    2012 8.3
    2013 8.0
    2014 6.6
    2015 5.7
    2016 4.9

    I don't say there are no problems, but not as big problems that we should stop calling America Great. America is still the wealthiest and the most successful country in the world.
     
  15. sawyer

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    Average wage is a false stat in showing where we are economically. A certain class of wage earner is prospering but we are becoming more and more of a have and have not society under Obama.


    "A large proportion of workers are not earning living wages: Nearly two of five existing jobs pay less than $15 an hour.
    Nearly half of new jobs are low-wage jobs: About 48 percent of projected national job openings do not pay $15 or higher. In analyzing individual states, that percentage ranges from 35 percent (Massachusetts) to 61 percent (South Dakota).
    There are not enough living wage jobs to go around: Nationally, there are seven times more jobseekers than there are projected jobs paying $15 or higher, leaving workers seeking better wages with few options."

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1/27/1360521/-Low-wage-jobs-are-taking-over-the-American-economy


    Our terrorism threat is worse than ever because Obama ignored the rise of ISIS and in fact called them the B team instead of destroying them at their inception. The would not exist if Obama had not dropped the ball on this. We have gone from a great country to a country in decline and that is exactly what Obama wanted. He did not like our position in the world as the lone superpower and wanted to cut us down to size and make the world more "fair". That is the socialist way.

    WASHINGTON — The Islamic State presents the greatest terrorist threat to Americans since 9/11, and fighting it will take more than airstrikes in Iraq, according to a top member of Congress and a retired four-star general.
    The Islamic State, also referred to as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, has vaulted in notoriety after the beheading of American journalist James Foley last week. On ABC's This Week, Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, who chairs the Homeland Security Committee, called Foley's murder a turning point.
    "I do think they present the greatest threat we've seen since 9/11," McCaul said. "This has been festering for the last year, and now it's culminating with the killing and the beheading of an American journalist. ... The American people — it has sort of opened their eyes to what ISIS really is, the true character of ISIS, how savage they really are and ... their intent to harm Americans."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/24/islamic-state-threat-allen-mccaul/14529815/
     
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    Yes, personal sacrifice is rare for today's political leaders. That has to do with character - virtue. Trumps ability to easily outmaneuver his opposition has everything to do with intelligence and skill.
     
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    Threads like this are why Trump is gaining momentum. If he's scaring off Democrats, more Republicans are going to switch over to him.
     
  18. PeppermintTwist

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    Whatever he has contributed has been erased by his outsourcing of jobs, his hiring illegals as opposed to American workers and his bilking trusting and hopeful entrepreneurs at his bogus university. All of which is totally true whether you like hearing it or not.
     
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    Assumes facts NOT in evidence.
     
  20. Natty Bumpo

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    Even if Trump "created jobs" in the businesses he has run, that would only suggest that, running the government, he would create more government jobs.

    Why do Trumpies want to grow government? I would have assumed that they'd prefer he work his alleged magic in the private sector.
     
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    Hillary = Obama lite.

    More of the same.

    Stagnant wages, shrinking middle class, growing entitlements, open borders, weakened military.

    The Clintons are corrupt.

    What sort of woman tolerates her man who treats her like a doormat. Her husband received oral sex while on the job, he has had multiple admitted affairs with others...she does nothing.

    It's an arranged marriage centered on one thing...political power.

    They do not care about the middle class, they care about political power.

    The only reason Hillary stayed with Bill even after sex scandals and embarrassment...making a mockery of their marriage is because Hillary has had eyes on the White House. Now it's payback for Bill to support her. These people are pathological liars.

    They are corrupt...the whole kit and kaboodle.
     
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    100% off topic deflection!

    T-Rump is the topic.

    Please try to stay focused.

    TYIA
     
  23. eddie228

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    having a Canadian and a anchor baby in the white house, should make us all feel proud to be Americans. I think special interest finally pushed things off the cliff this time. from this point forward things will never be the same.
     
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    Then you are not old enough to remember what this nation was like before Reagan brought back gilded age economics. Not your fault. But thanks to Reagan who put us back on this insane gilded age road, America has gone down the tubes when average people are concerned. We are in the New Gilded Age, that the crash of 29 and the great depression ended, thanks to FDR. America say her greatest prosperity for average people from FDR til Reagan, and he reversed that, with help from Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama.

    Trump sounds radical with him wanting to stop illegal immigration, from getting away from hollowing out America by allowing MNCs to offshore and use our markets as a pimp uses a whore, but what trump is talking about is how this nation was run until Reagan, who screwed the pooch, or rather, the American people.

    His language is course, which reflects our society, but his ideas made this country what it used to be. That is, you look after americans first, and not Mexicans or communists, just so MNCs can max out their own profits. Gov't used to look out for the People, their economic interests, which is what feeds them. Then with Reagan, gov't only started looking out for the rich elites. And this created the America you see today. And it sucks.
     
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    OMG, you are so right!!!
     

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