Voter Fraud - Please Explain

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You like to just make up stuff, don't you?

He blamed the discrepancies on the city’s decade-old voting machines, saying 87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times. Poll workers are supposed to adjust counters to reflect a single vote but in many cases failed to do so, causing the discrepancies, Baxter said.

http://canadafreepress.com/article/...ts-ballots-votes-being-counted-more-than-once

This also happened in other DEMOCRAT cities in Michigan - ONLY Democrat cities. HUNDREDS of voting machines where DEMOCRAT poll workers were running ballots thru the machines over and over and over, claiming optical scanner problems ONLY in Democrat precincts, ONLY with Democrat poll workers, and ONLY Democrat poll worked didn't know how to cancel the prior votes.

The reality, Trump STOMPED Clinton in Michigan.

Now, add those 800,000+ non-citizens who voted.

Add the military ballots never counted...

Just for starters - and ALWAYS frauds and suppress favoring DEMOCRATS by DEMOCRATS.

 

Looks like I'll have to explain this like you're 5. Try to pay attention skippy.

The "counter" on the machine being referred to doesn't count ACTUAL VOTES, it just counts the number of ballots that have passed through. Therefore, it's extremely plausible that if people were shoving the cards through multiple times because they were jamming and so on, that the COUNTER would have a higher number than final number of actual votes cast. Got it?

Your fairy tale theory of people putting ballots through machines multiple times and having the votes COUNT multiple times is impossible as it would trigger an immediate error and investigation. Not to mention, it would hilariously easy to catch when you have reports of all these individual people voting multiple times under the same name!!!

Lol, not too bright are you

 

1) How does in-person voting w/o fraud work? It isn't some complicated process, it's the same as regular voting but where the person isn't legally entitled to vote, or voting multiple times, putting up a different name, etc. It sounds like this this is a bait question - if you have a point, just make it. If not, in-person voter fraud isn't that complicated.
2) That's a false premise. There wouldn't need to be a coordinated effort, there would just need to be enough people doing it to change the outcome. If it was coordinated, it wouldn't need "hundreds of thousands of people". It's not as if people committing voter fraud would only do it once - this is pretty common sense. We know from DOJ statistics how many people are convicted for selling weed each year, but you'd have to be out of your mind to think that is itself an indicator of how many times weed was sold in a given year.
3) Why would it be so easy to discover? You tell me, "step by step" how that works when you're in a state where voters can register the same day without any proof of who they are?
4) That's a false dichotomy with a straw man fit in. The straw man: no one says there is a "massive secret conspiracy", or at least I've never heard anyone say that. The false dichotomy is that, obviously, the two options you gave are not the only two options, and they actually exclude the predominant opinion of the people you would question.


Look, the US government (state and federal) spends a combined 40billion per year on the drug war, and do you know how many they arrested for selling weed in 2012? Less than 7000. That's more than 5million spent per person arrested for selling marijuana. Now of course, marijuana only made up about half of their arrests, which brings it to just a little under 3million dollars per arrest. Now if it takes that much money per drug arrest, what makes you think it would be so incredibly cheap and easy to investigate drug fraud after the fact, with such loose voting laws?

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/fjs1112.txt

 

Wait, what voter suppression laws? Are you trying to call voter ID "voter suppression laws"?

 

your post is a lie, the MN thing has been debunked. Please try to be serious

 

Debate is meaningless unless the participants are well informed.

 

No it hasn't - felons illegally voted and - ObamaCare. Fund and Von Spakovsky detail this and other funny stuff in the Coleman vs. Franken election.

 

And reading suggestions are meaningless if you use them as a substitute for discussion. If you have information, please provide it or summarize it. Suggested reading isn't an appropriate substitute for actual argument or debate.

 

The information is there for those with the curiosity and initiative to access it. I'm not really interested in debate on this issue - been through it too many times already.

 

Dude just stop, you aren't fooling anyone. You dropped some book names because you can't answer the questions I posed, and yet want to come off informed.

 

The "voter fraud" conspiracy crackpots may actually believe that the "thousands and thousands" of imaginary terrorism cheerleaders in New Jersey are among the "three to five million" who all voted against the delusional narcissist, but they have no credible evidence to convince anyone who is not ideologically-driven to swallow their self-serving "alternative facts."

Kris Kobach, the virulently xenophobic Attorney General in Kansas, has been haunted by legions of these imaginary entities for years, yet, with all his resources available to identify and prosecute such malefactors, he has never brought a single actual case against any non-citizen for voting illegally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...se-voter-fraud-claims/?utm_term=.be98cca1be1c

 

The fact that think you can "put in different names" when you vote shows you have never voted in your life. The rest of your post just reinforce the fact.

For example, comparing voter fraud to selling weed is childishly absurd. Lol, you don't need to legally be allowed to register to sell weed, and then actually officially register to sell weed, and then actually walk in, sign off on said registration with government officials to go ahead and sell weed. This is why selling weed in an alley is easy, whereas committing actual in person voter fraud is both extremely risky and easy to track.

Also, people take the risk of selling weed for personal profit, often out of desperation. What exactly is the motivation of risking being charged with a federal crime and having your life destroyed forever....so you personally can cast what no doubt will be a meaningless extra vote or two or three?

This is why in person voting fraud doesn't happen. The only even remotely possible way it would is if it were orchastrated and people were paid to do it. And that's where you get into the ridiculousness and impossibility of such a grand secret conspiracy.

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It's like these people are in s cult.

 

In the states where it is legal is an ID required to purchase marijuana ?? If so does that not discriminate against low income minorities ??

A peer reviewed paper indicates that ~ 15% of illegal aliens may have voted in the 2008 election. That does not prove anything but it is certainly something to be investigated and finally we have an administration that will do that investigation.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf

 

At least 800,000 non-citizens voted.

 

Of course - just like requiring an ID in Colorado to purchase Marijuana is a "weed smoker suppression law."

 

We also have to remember that detroit school graduates can't read or count very well, in their defense.

 

Democrats promise us there is no voter fraud.

But there is.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

 

The OPer started to exactly identical threads with the identical OP.

 

Try this,
[video=youtube;jUDTcxIqqM0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0[/video]

 

Treasonous leftist garbage are quick to explain how Capitalism is rife with fraudsters, and tax cheats are hiding under every rock, yet 'cannot see' where fraud could possibly occur in the democratic process -- that they routinely defraud (hello, DNC and debate questions outed by Wikileaks) -- or their Welfare/Entitlement vote buying schemes.

 

Nope the whole thing's been debunked it's a lie

 

The leftness always acts like.....there isn't any documentation.


Voter Fraud in the US: Documented:
Part 1


SEE ALSO:
PART 2
PART 3


http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/V...ry.asp?id=2216

 

There is nothing to prevent you pretending whatever number strikes your fancy.

What happened to the "three to five million" that the messiah had proclaimed? Does the Trump cult believe he had multiplied them like loaves and fishes?

And, how does one determine how "secret" voters, no matter how many they wish to imagine, voted on "secret" ballots?

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"JUST THE ALTERNATIVE FACTS, MA'AM,
JUST THE ALTERNATIVE FACTS."​

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