Voter suppression

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    face it, you're asking stupid questions

    there are people that live without having a photo id
     
  2. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Translation.... You're asking questions which would make me look like a propaganda sponge if I answered them honestly.
     
  3. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    you have no clue what you're talking about
     
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    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    You are a propaganda sponge. Nothing more.
     
  5. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    you're projecting your own situation

    [video=youtube;71CyRYy7y3g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71CyRYy7y3g[/video]
     
  6. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    One can not have a rational debate with a partisan hack propaganda sponge.
     
  7. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    your poor excuses are amusing
     
  8. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Your inability to answer a simple question is something less than amusing.
     
  9. dujac

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    i answered every time, of course you didn't like the answer
     
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    It's comical to watch liberals run around like their hair was on fire and their asses a catchin over voter ID. Minority voting increased NOT decreased.
     
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    And, how would it harm them to get a photo ID?

    The core issue is that Democrats have a long history of election fraud. Stuffing ballot boxes, having dead people vote, intimidating voters, having foreign nationals vote, having people vote in multiple states, having people travel from the safe Democrat state in which they live to a battleground state and vote as residents in the other state.

    To further these crooked goals the Democrats have gotten motor voter laws, same day registration, and safe, anonymous voting.

    And they don't want to give up the advantage. They will lie, cheat, and steal to keep the edge.
    Mississippi got Voter ID and the best complaint the socialist could come up with was that people were looking at them. I guess they're taking the cue from President Obama whining about the meanies calling him names.

    The overwhelming majority of Americans want voter IDs. The Democrats don't care what you want. The overwhelming majority of Americans want a southern border. The Democrats don't care what you want. Most Americans do not want Obamacare. The Democrats don't care what you want. As Rep. Pelosi said, it doesn't matter to Democrats if nobody wants what they're going to give them.
     
  12. dujac

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    it wouldn't harm them, many of them want one, but have been turned away

    [video=youtube;ks-4YRZWaNY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks-4YRZWaNY[/video]
     
  13. Tahuyaman

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    This is some great stuff.
     
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    as opposed to corporate billionaires using bought-off congressmen to suppress citizen's right to vote

    which is anti-american and against the constitution
     
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    ^^^^^ this dude's a hoot.
     
  16. dujac

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    of course you can't make a real argument

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    Any patriotic American should be opposed to illegal voting! A Voter ID would help to prevent that. Any minor inconvenience to a few people would pale in comparison to assuring a legal vote!
     
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    Income inequality is a side effect of liberty. Some will choose the path to prosperity, while others choose the path to poverty. It is the liberty for a person to make the choice for himself that results in the inequity you lament. I would not trade that liberty for some enforced equity.
     
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    I can. Any right to vote you may have is granted to you by the STATE. The Constitutional amendments you are quoting guarantee that IF YOU HAVE BEEN GRANTED the right to vote by your state, that right cannot be granted contingent upon race, sex, etc. Troianii is correct, the right to vote is never guaranteed by the Constitution, but the Constitution simply makes clear that you cannot be discriminated against based on several factors (race, sex, etc).
     
  20. dujac

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    the robber baron days say it isn't

    you're wrong, congress gives the states the power to make constitutional rules regarding voting in their constituency

    the right to vote in the usa, originates in the constitution and is explicitly defined in the 'voting rights act'



    what illegal voting? the statistical incidence of voter fraud is next to nil

    and willie mims is a citizen that has been voting since wwII


    Comprehensive Database of U.S. Voter Fraud Uncovers No Evidence That Photo ID Is Needed

    A News21 analysis of 2,068 alleged election-fraud cases since 2000 shows that while fraud has occurred, the rate is infinitesimal, and in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tough voter ID laws, is virtually non-existent.

    In an exhaustive public records search, News21 reporters sent thousands of requests to elections officers in all 50 states, asking for every case of fraudulent activity including registration fraud, absentee ballot fraud, vote buying, false election counts, campaign fraud, casting an ineligible vote, voting twice, voter impersonation fraud and intimidation.

    Analysis of the resulting comprehensive News21 election fraud database turned up 10 cases of voter impersonation. With 146 million registered voters in the United States during that time, those 10 cases represent one out of about every 15 million prospective voters.
    “Voter fraud at the polls is an insignificant aspect of American elections,” said elections expert David Schultz, professor of public policy at Hamline University School of Business in St. Paul, Minn.

    “There is absolutely no evidence that (voter impersonation fraud) has affected the outcome of any election in the United States, at least any recent election in the United States,” Schultz said.

    http://votingrights.news21.com/article/election-fraud/
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    How do you prove it?

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    How do you know when you can't prove it?

    How do you know when you can't prove it and when in a close election all it takes is a nil amount?

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    Yes your point being what? How do you know they are citizens? How do you know they are not voting under someone else's name and haven't been doing so for decades?

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    Who says? Where did you get the idea that 93 year old people don't shop, my blind mother certainly did.
     
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    What is wrong with wanting people who vote to be knowledgeable about the candidates and the issues? Why is it better to have people who don't even know what party controls congress or what the issues are or what the candidates stand for voting? How does that serve for a better government?
     
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    Government tells you what you can vote about and when you can do it and what is necessary on your part to do so, the Constitution only guaranties you must be given equal access when government ALLOWS you to vote on a matter. You have no right to vote for President as an example.

    If my wife went to the polling place and voted in my dead mothers name how would they know?
     
  24. dujac

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    i know because i lived throughout it and i'm aware of history

    but, your sophomoric questions about proving something, remind me of beaver cleaver and larry mondello

    i can just hear larry yelling at beaver, "oh yea, then prove it"


    names are stricken from voting rolls after death
     
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    What's your guess?

    How about we pay for this with a tax on incomes over a million dollars.
    People can hire attorneys, at market rates, say $150/hr, to track down the documents they need, and the state picks up the tab, including any travel expenses, etc.

    That'll root out the fakes, huh?
     
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