WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

You and @Derideo_Te have amazing stamina. ;-0

 

No, it proves me indisputably right yet again: that image commemorates the terror and death of 10,000 innocent people in the name of contending absurd superstitions.

 

Perhaps if you want to levy the charge of Hypocrite,

YOU should look to the People who speak for and defend the disgusting actions of the
Rogue and Cowardly Yellow PIGs, who act and hide in concert with each other, behind
their 'code of silence' and their Badges. Exactly the same sort of code known as Omertà
............................ used by another Criminal Organization. The one we know as the Mafia.

YOU should look to those People, such as YOURSELF, who would define the Totenkopf
as used by Punishers, Rogue Police, and Nazi SS, as "a Symbol of Justice"

YOU should look to the Mentally and Spiritually challenged Goons who voluntarily plunge
their "Mind Set" into the sewer, as they choose to equate themselves, with the Persona
of "The Heroic Warrior" to further Justify their arrogant Thuggish behavior. Such bald,
and NAKED bloating of the EGO of a seriously damaged personality could be seen as Puerile
and be made Joke of, but for the TRAGIC consequences that results from such an unfounded
................................................................................................................................................ "Mind Set"

YOU should look to the People who take an oath to uphold the LAW and to 'serve and
protect', yet set themselves above any LAW with the doctrine of "Qualified Immunity'
and proceed to define the People they are sworn to serve as sheep - "SHEEP," to be
..................... herded, controlled and held as a breed below, in contempt, & inferior to their
...................................................................... self defined exalted status of "Heroic Warrior"
.

YOU should look to those Brutish cop THINGS who actually use the filthy bloody words
...... ............ of "Adolph f#<king Hitler !" as their Inspiration and Justification for their use
................. of the Brutal and overwhelming Sadistic Violence at the slightest provocation.

In other words
YOU should take off the blinders of YOUR obvious "Willful Ignorance" and take an honest,
close and in depth look into YOUR mirror to see clearly, and how exactly that word Hypocrite
......................................................................................................................... is defined in YOUR case



Here Be some of
Grossman's Heroic PIG Warriors,
............................. Herding The Sheep

No doubt 'armored out' with their Symbols of Justice
and their "Inspirational quotes" from the mouth of
................ Adolph f#<hing Hitler

Here - these Sadistic SOB's get their kicks Torturing a fully restrained victim.
Who latter Died of Heart complications no doubt brought on by this abuse


Here they Dog Pile an unarmed defenseless man, and beat him senseless .
Why does a Dog lick himself ? - answer: "Because he can"
Why do these Pigs beat this man? - answer: "Because they can"


Here the Punisher
springs into action - Brutally Punishing this man for Jaywalking


..

 

1. No one could watch the video and think the police did not act properly.
2. They chose a profession to serve and protect and do that brilliantly.
3, Of course there was, the gunman brought the gun around towards the contact officer.
4. Not from the cover officer's viewpoint.

 

All self evident, come on, give it up, police are heroes and acted properly here, everyone can see that.

1. They were not gunmen they were police officers.
2.The gunman brought his weapon around towards the contact officer
3. No, he resisted arrest and forced the officers to restrain him using authorised techniques.
4. No it wasn't, murder skyrocketed in the 60s alongside drug abuse, save your absurd conspiracy theories for the tinfoil hat brigade.
5. I wish you did get it but then you've never had my experience, you're the hindsight hypocrite.
6. As previously listed? Why do you keep asking me to repeat them? What wasn't clear?

 

ANSWER the questions?

 

It commemorates the triumph of civil and religious liberty and democracy over sectarianism and tyranny! That's why we call it the Glorious Revolution and celebrate it every 12th of July.

 

All of which was justified, all of who deserved it and the police were right in every case, come on, the police are heroes, everyone knows that.

 

I think there chould be a case against the 911 caller too. He he called in a false police report and that crime resulted in a homicide.

It certainly sounds like the second time he called, obviously frustrated that the police were taking so long to respond to his noise complaint a half hour earlier, he purposefully misled the dispatcher an effort to get the police to prioritize it from a nuisance complaint to a domestic violence complaint.

And of course police officers handle those kinds of calls very differently.

Dispatcher: Does it sound like it's escalated to anything physical, or still just sound verbal?

Caller: Oh. It could be physical. I could say yeah, if it makes anybody hurry up and get over here any faster, huh.

Dispatcher: Have you heard anything that indicates it might be physical?

Caller: I hear slamming of doors. I don't know, somebody could be getting thrown into a door for all I know. But I hear all kinds of banging.

 

B-b-b-ut he was trying to sleep and the police were taking too long. It had already been a half an hour since he called the first time. Doesn't that justify a false making a false police report? After all, he had to work in the morning and they were playing their video game too loud.

 

Even though such a trigger-happy LEO has no business being a policeman if he can't deal with armed citizens, I still think that the 911 caller bears some of the responsibility for the tragic outcome.

Do you know if there have been any further developments in this case?

 

That's part of their training. We don't really know how the caller "framed" the complaint but it is always better for the dispatcher to prepare the officers for an escalated situation. Nobody has a way of knowing what is what until they are there.

In addition to being a former LEO, I have been on the "wrong" end of an out-of-control LEO who threatened my life. In fairness, my ex got ditry during our separation and called the cops on me several times so the dispatcher probably "framed" that call with me being the bad guy. I was able to de-escalate the situation and didn't get the beating that was promised, but that LEO was looking forward to giving it. Fortunately, I'm able to keep my head in volatile situations which probably saved my life that day.

 

Agreed!

Some jurisdictions consider filing false police reports to be a crime but I do not know if Phoenix is one of them. If it is then throw the book at the caller.

 

Yes we do. We have the audio of the call. It's in the link in the OP along with the body cam video from both officers.

Both the caller and the shooter should be charged with homicide.

 

Re:

Me too; in both love and war, I never regretted anything I didn't say.

 

I didn't convey my point well. There is a relationship between dispatchers and officers they direct to calls. We heard the complaint and the dispatcher but there could be a "back story" that is only known within the police department. A dispatcher's job is to take a call and relay the information to the responding officer(s) as quickly as possible. The reality is we, as observers to the video, are not privy to this extra information, if any. Admittedly, sometimes the LEO isn't either. I am assuming there is more in the back story because it's not common for LEOs to knock on doors with their weapon out.

Standing at the ready? Sure.
Getting behind blockades? Sure.
Weapon locked and loaded? Not usually (UNLESS there is a good reason for it and being trigger-happy is not one of those reasons).

Regardless, I think it would set a very bad precedent for dispatchers to be charged in instances like this. Nobody would ever take the job if that was the case. It is often a thankless job and very, very stressful. Could you imagine handling X number of calls a day and almost none of them are about a cat in a tree?

 

ROTFL!!

ROTFLMAO!!

Who, exactly, got to vote in that "democracy," hmmmmm? Hint: it was not the 10,000 victims of the terror and slaughter you so disgracefully celebrate.

I see. So, a couple of centuries later, when a handful of English Protestant landowners starved a million landless (and thus voteless) Irish Catholic peasants to death, that was a "triumph of civil liberty and democracy over sectarianism and tyranny"?

Somehow, I kinda figured it'd be something like that....

I'm sure you do. You're obviously a big fan of death and terror.

 

Why should the caller be charged with homicide? That would also set a bad precedent. People will NEVER call the police for anything suspicious or worrisome.

 

Objectively and self-evidently false, as this thread proves so very conclusively. You are now in the phase where you will just say anything whatever to deflect from the fact that your claims have been proved objectively false.

Oh? I guess that must be why US law enforcement agencies hold a far higher fraction of the population they "serve and protect" incarcerated than any other advanced country, and kill a far higher fraction of them, yet still maintain a far higher crime rate....

No, your claim is just objectively false. He was obviously bending down to put it on the floor when the psychotic, trigger-happy gunman suddenly opened fire without warning, deliberately murdering him.

Yes, from his viewpoint. He was obviously just looking for any excuse to empty his magazine at someone, anyone. He didn't care who he murdered -- man, woman, child -- as long as he could see a dead, bleeding body on the ground and know that he had put it there. That's when it feels real good, when you feel like a god because you have exercised the power of life and death over another human being.

 

You can't do that. It's up to the officers to assess the situation upon their arrival. As much as the caller was complicit, he must get a pass

 

Ahem. Everyone, including you, can see they self-evidently did not act properly. You are merely using the same propaganda technique as your hero Donald Trump, claiming that "everyone knows" a baldly false claim.

You said anyone with a gun is a gunman -- and unlike the victim, the gunman in uniform actually used his gun. Now you are apparently saying anyone who is not a police officer is a gunman. That certainly fits your narrative.

No, he most certainly and indisputably did not. He was self-evidently and indisputably bending down to put it on the floor. He self-evidently and indisputably could not have done that while holding it behind his back.

No, he did not "force" them to do any such thing, stop makin' $#!+ up. They chose to physically attack him.

No, alongside the war on the civilian population prosecuted by law enforcement agencies. The ONLY commonly used drug whose USE (not prohibition) is associated with violent crime is ALCOHOL.

Read and learn:

https://www.businessinsider.com/racist-origins-marijuana-prohibition-legalization-2018-2

Your experience is merely one episode in a centuries-old cycle of racist wrongs and retaliations therefor. But you need to own the fact that whites started it, and have sustained it, and thus owe the victims forebearance.

You listed "evidence" that did not actually support your claim.

I'm asking for evidence, not repetition of your non-evidence.

How the material you listed is evidence for your claim.

 

I did.

 

Making exaggerated claims of a potential crime in progress to a 911 dispatcher in order to provoke a police response puts lives at risk, and is consequently a crime, much like pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire. Obviously it's not homicide, but it shouldn't get a pass.

 

THANK YOU - For even if this statement was meant to be Sarcastic it reveals to us exactly
why it is that Americans have taken to the streets to protest against the excessive force and
overreach as it is presently being practiced by Police Departments throughout the Nation.

THANK YOU - For pulling down YOUR pants and exposing to us the repulsive Nature, the
infected pustules & the Terminal Disease that has presently infest the Blue Line American
"Law Enforcement Community." - For however "Justified" YOU might feel it is to repeatedly
Punish, Torture, Beat and Shoot to DEATH YOUR tied, bound and unarmed Victims, such
actions are not only Illegal, by any standard, but must be seen as blatantly EVIL.

For, in a Civilized Society were the "Rule of Law" is supposedly in effect, the right to dispense
Punishment and Retribution comes ONLY after due process and lies ONLY within the hands of
duly empowered Judges, Juries, and Executioners. & NOT in the hands of some Bully Ass
Pig with a mental and/or spiritual deficit who considers himself to be "Heroic Warrior."

What YOU have inadvertently done here, is to attempt to give Justification and Rationalization to
the establishment of DEATH SQUADS. For if Punishment and Retribution are in the Hands of,
....... ........................................................ and at the Whim of the Police, then you have a Police State.
........................................................................ & DEATH SQUADS are the inevitable endgame of such thinking

Already YOU have groups of Rogue "police heroes" forming Gangs within Police Departments,
branding themselves with Totenkopf tattoos and taking on such monikers as "The Executioners"

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Compton Executioners Gang Lied About Guns And Hosted Inking Parties
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-20/lasd-gangs-who-are-the-compton-executioners

Compton: Violent Gang of LA Sheriff's Deputies Have Nazi Tattoos, Colleague Claims
A violent gang of Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies who call themselves
“The Executioners” control a patrol station in Compton through force, threats,
work slowdowns and acts of revenge against those who speak out,
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So lets be Reasonable Reasonablerob - I would !Charge! that anybody who thinks the present
trajectory of Police Enforcement is a Good Idea, that person is a Traitor to all that is TRUE & JUST
in a Civil Democratic Society. And at the moment that seems to include YOU Mr. Reasonablebrob.
AND - if things don't change at a fundamental level, THINGS will soon be getting much WORSE.

Already YOU have Riots in the Streets. The American people are armed and will not tolerate the
inevitable Escalations and Atrocities that are bound to continue in the establishment of a Police State
........................................................................................................................................................................ tyranny.

There will be insurrection and GOD FORBID - YOUR "police heroes" will find themselves hanging
upside down by their heels from off of lampposts with their guts plopping on to the pavement.

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I understand your point and agree with you on everything you've been posting about the heinous abuse of power used in this unfortunate situation. However, what happens when we start arresting and/or fining people for calling the police? As a person who has been mistreated by the police many times (messy divorce) I think the abuse of the system IS a definite problem. I am just not sure that punishing the caller will help the crime rates because people will just stop calling for help. Personally, I would have to be on the brink of death with no other viable option for any other service before I'd call the police for anything. I can only think of a handful of situations in which they did not make things worse than they needed to be. But, calling the cops shouldn't be punishable to the point people are afraid to get involved. It is kind of like when people stopped helping one another in medical emergencies. The Good Samaritan law helped to absolve them of liability for trying to do the right thing.

So, what is a good balance for stopping abuse of 911 calls AND making sure people can get help from the police when they need it?