WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Well YOU certainly do not sound like a guy who would call the Cops for a noise complaint.
    I have courteously asked my Neighbor a few times to COOL IT - and Low & Behold
    .................................................................................................................................... It Works ! :)

    Though noise complaints can become pretty nasty, pretty quick I recon
    ................................................ It might be hard to put fair limits on 911 calls
     
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    [​IMG] ............................................................................................................................................. [​IMG]
    Cop - s p l a i n i n g - is So funny :deadhorse:

    gunman - a guy playing video games, coming to the door, unable to see the Jerks
    screaming at him, from where he can't see them, as they stood outside his PEEP
    just the kind of gunman that is going to come out shooting at 3 or 4 armed cops

    resisted arrest - dropping to his knees with the obvious intention of PLACING his
    gun on the ground, rather than dropping it and having a chance of misfire.

    you've never had my experience - Obviously this guy is a Heroic Warrior

    everyone can see that. - seems this guy is myopic and can't see what everyone else sees

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    No, only for lying to them, making false reports, etc. There have to be consequences for such abuses, or people would simply use it as a way to harass others they have conflicts with. Maybe you have heard of the "SWATting" phenomenon, where people make a phony 911 call that provokes a SWAT team response on someone they don't like. That is OBVIOUSLY a crime.
    Call for help all you want, no problem. Just don't lie to get the cops to harass someone you are in conflict with.
    I'm not American, but even so, I've seen that police presence sometimes makes matters worse, especially if there are drugs involved.
    No need to be afraid if you are not lying.
    And there are similar protections for good-faith 911 calls.
    Start by not lying to the police.
     
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    OK. But, what happens when someone calls with what they believe to be a crime and it turns out to be nothing? How do authorities determine which calls were made with sincerity and which ones weren't. I get that it would be easy if the same caller is calling on the same person (which is what happened in my case and my ex got away with abusing 911) but what about the others? Where is the line?
     
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    Police detectives (not patrol cops) are pretty good at getting at the truth.
    Detectives look for a pattern of behavior, inconsistent stories, etc.
     
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    ...................................................... Grossman's Warrior Mindset in Action
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    ...................................................................................................................... I'm a police officer
    ........................................................................................................................... I'm a Warrior

    https://www.facebook.com/WRTV6/vide...ice-officer-a-deputy-constab/799950053761692/

    ...... Cop Goes to Wrong Home, and Kills a Child's Dog
    .....

    I
    t is WISE to look upon those who take upon themselves an EXALTED moniker
    ................................................................ to look upon them with a Sceptical Eye


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    He DID deal with him properly. As for the 911 caller they surely could never have expected such lunatic actions from the gunman?
     
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    Yes 'swatting' is a big problem but that's not the case here, everyone just thought this would be a quiet word about noisy video games until someone decided to answer the door with a gun in his hand.
     
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    No, the only person to blame here is the gunman, the officer acted correctly and the caller just complained about noisy video games.
     
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    So you have no comeback? We celebrate the preservation of Magna Carta, Bill of Rights, Act of Toleration and democracy, the right if parliament to influence the king and not the the other way around. We celebrate the Battle of the Boyne and Relief of Londonderry, that's not terror and slaughter, we leave that to the Jacobites.

    Oh my god you didn't actually believe that about the Famine did you? Really? COME ON! IN 2020! These were the hungry forties, the landowners were just as Irish as the peasants and we were no different to the rest of Britain/Europe. I'm a big fan of freedom and truth, you should try it.
     
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    1. No, you're flannelling because you have no comeback. The video shows how right the officer was.
    2. Cart before the horse, because of the higher violent crime rate the US police lock up and kill more than others.
    3. No he wasn't, watch the footage from his angle and his angle alone.
    4. What are you talking about? All they did was go to talk to a man about loud video games? Exactly what do you base your wild projections on?
     
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    You're bringing Trump into this? Really? No he's a police officer, not a gunman, the nutjob who opened the door with a pistol in his hand was a gunman. You must only watch the footage from the cover officer's viewpoint, the contact officer's viewpoint is irrelevant because the cover officer cannot see things from his angle. The insane actions of the gunman forced the officer to kill him. Violent crime in America skyrocketed in the mid 60s, 5 years before Nixon declared his war on drugs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

    Do you actually believe all of American law enforcement got together and said "Let's find a way to persecute minorities!"? "White's started it"? That really is delusional racism.
     
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    Unless anyone can put me right, wasn't it just a minor complaint about video games?
     
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    Yes, heroes whose actions are 100% justified 99% of the time including this one. All your highlighted text will never change that no matter what colour you put it in.
     
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    What a hero this Grossman guy is! What's this St Andrew talking about? When did we ever see that?
     
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    Shooting a compliant suspect in the back 3 times is gross incompetence and grounds for immediate dismissal..... at the least.

    The only "lunatic actions" in this tragedy were those taken by the killer.

    Any LEO who cannot deal with non threatening armed citizens is in the wrong line of work.
     
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    In the first call. In the second call, the caller said it sounded like someone was being thrown or slammed against a door. That's domestic violence, one of the more dangerous situations police respond to, and one that calls for de-escalation above all.
     
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    Yes, because you used his propaganda technique of prefacing a baldly false claim with "everyone can see."
    No. The gunman in uniform had a gun, and used it, which is what makes him a gunman. Unlike the victim.
    In the murderer's video, it is obvious the victim is bending down to put his gun on the floor when the uniformed gunman suddenly opens fire without warning.
    There is nothing insane about bending down to put a weapon on the floor when confronted by armed gunmen. It was the uniformed murderer's actions that were self-evidently insane, as in psychopathic.

    Drugs were already prohibited. Nixon just expanded the war, even to other countries.
    No, only Anslinger, Hoover, and a few others at the top. Of course, they had a certain amount of sympathy in the rank and file.
    No, that really is something everybody knows.
     
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    The video shows he murdered an innocent man who was bending down to put his weapon on the floor.
    GARBAGE. Drug "crime" is not violent, and most incarcerated Americans are in for drugs and other non-violent crimes. Evil and insane "three strikes" laws put people in jail for life for "violent" crimes like shoplifting.
    I've watched it, and he was.
    A murdering psychopath's likely motives.
    And murder him.
    The murderer's actions.
     
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    I refuted you. You just ignore the facts that prove you wrong.
    But not with skulls.
    It is indisputably terror and slaughter.
    The facts are indisputable.
    That is an absurd claim contrary to indisputable historical fact:

    "Still, it’s important to note that the bulk of these elected representatives were landowners of British origin and/or their sons. In addition, any Irish who practiced Catholicism—the majority of Ireland’s native population—were initially prohibited from owning or leasing land, voting or holding elected office under the so-called Penal Laws.

    Although the Penal Laws were largely repealed by 1829, their impact on Ireland’s society and governance was still being felt at the time of the Potato Famine’s onset. English and Anglo-Irish families owned most of the land, and most Irish Catholics were relegated to work as tenant farmers forced to pay rent to the landowners."


    https://www.history.com/topics/immigration/irish-potato-famine
    You are an enemy of freedom and truth as well as justice, as you demonstrate in every post you write.
     
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    What are you talking about? This officer had microseconds to react before the gunman shot his oppo, he acted correctly.
     
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    Really? Because sometimes we both state the obvious? The gunman answered the door to these police officers. What murderer? The cover officer's footage shows the gunman bringing the gun around towards the contact officer. It's not the officer who was insane or psychopathic, it was the gunman and you if you can't see that? You're dodging the question, where did this great anti-minorities conspiracy come from? Violent crime was on the up from the mid sixties.
    I hate to burst your bubble but that's just 'blame whitey' hypocrisy and racism minorities use to try to escape their responsibilities for their own failings.
     
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    There was no murder, the officer acted correctly and everyone knows it. Drug convictions helped lock up thousands of minor offenders who couldn't be in the streets killing one another if they were in prison. Don't do the crime if you can't take the time.
     
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    No, you're dodging the question because you have no comeback. All war is terror and slaughter but we Williamites were always the good guys that is undeniable. It's not that the famine didn't happen, simply that we Irish were never any different to the rest of Britain/Europe.

    Yeah the article you quote is just an opinion piece and doesn't actually say anything, simply that most landowners in the period were Unionists, so what? What difference does that make?

    Oh I am an enemy of freedom, truth and justice?:icon_jawdrop::omfg: For disagreeing with you? Well if that isn't the whine of the SJW neatly encapsulated right there?
     
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    This thread and the body cam videos both prove your claims are false.
    I see. So, we permanently destroy the lives of millions of non-violent offenders in order to "save" the lives of thousands of violent ones?

    Somehow, I kinda figured it's be something like that...
    Is that what you tell girls in Muslim countries who are raped and then jailed for adultery?

    Despicable beyond the rich resources of the English language to express.
     
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