We Need Donald Trump

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  1. Borat

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    The Republican establishment, the democratic establishement and the media are in full panic mode over the possibility of him winning the White House. Would anyone of them be if your claim was even remotely correct?

    Being a businessman he had no choice but to play the game by the rules established by Political/Business/Media elites. These aren't his rules and he is most certainly the most qualified to expose and change them.
     
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    Independents hate trump...they don't like Hillary much better.

    trump needs to worry about expanding his base within the republican minority. He isn't doing that right now...most of the republican party is voting against him and if it wasn't for the fact that there are so many candidates, trump would be losing within the minority party as it is.

    trump does have the moron & racist vote locked up though.
     
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    He cannot win the White House. Republicans are in panic mode that he will win the GOP candidacy and thereby doom Republican held Senate seats. Democrats are gleeful that he will. The media is as usual over-caffeinated.

    The guy who enthusiastically used the rules to his advantage is not the most committed to changing them.
     
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    No matter who is prez, it's not going to change.
    Still have congress who has to do as the Wall st masters tell them.
     
  5. Borat

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    wrong. The republican elite contemplates supporting Hillary or running an independent candidate, in essense guaranteeing Hillary's victory in November.

    Wrong. The Hillary compaign is on record that they are terrified to run against Trump. And rightly so. He will demolish her. What Trump did to Jeb will look like child play compared to what he will do to her.

    Wrong. The media is in corporate pockets, as usual and is therefore anti-Trump

    Well, it's either him or a career politician fully owned by lobbyists, wall street, insurance/oil/arms industries etc.... You don't expect your friendly neighborhood plumber to get elected and run the US, do you? It's got to be a wealthy businessman financing his own campaign and thus not beholden to anyone's interests, whether you like it or not.
     
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    If GWB and Obama managed to push a bunch of heavily unpopular things down the throat of the American public, so can Trump of course. But you are right about the congress being the Wall street's servants. Hopefully Trump will just be the beginning, he will demonstrate that it's possible and how it is done and those corporate wh*res (aka politicians) on both sides of the aisle will be replaced soon enough as well.
     
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    Got anything to back this up? It's 'on record' so shouldn't be hard to find and post.
     
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    Read this for starters and kindly let us know in which paragraph of the article the democrats are "gleeful" which is what you declared in your previous post #28.
    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-democrats-fear-donald-trump

    The democrats are horrified of Trump. Cruz is unelectable, Rubio is a good debater but that's not enough to win in November and he has nothing else going for him. Trump on the other hand with his unconventional manners (to put it mildly) will wipe the floor with Hillary.
     
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    Will you leave if Hillary wins? Promise?
     
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    So where is it on record that the Clinton campaign is terrified to run against Trump?
     
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    You claimed the Democrats were gleeful about Trump becoming the republican nominee. I proved you wrong, dead wrong. The entire article I provided is about the Democrats and Clinton campaign worrying sick about running against Trump.
     
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    Voting for him because he can win is a silly basis to vote for someone IMO. Knowing his policies and how will he implement them is a better reason to vote for someone. He says he will build a wall along the Mexican border. Will he raise taxes or cut programs to offset the inital cost or will he allow it to add to our debt untill the fees pay it down? How long will it take for the fees to payoff the cost? If he does not win the House and the Senate how will he push through the Bill? If the Bill faces a Constitutional challange how will win the challange?
     
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    If we want to show a huge amount of disdain for Muslims, resurrect the KKK, basically wave a big middle finger to immigrants universally, then yes, "we" need Donald Trump.
     
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    It's on the record you said. It's not on the record, you made it up.
     
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    Lol it's not about you and me. It's about the fact that the Democrats aren't gleeful as you claimed without a shred of evidence, they are in fact terrified to run against Trump as the link I provided demonstrates beyond the shadow of the doubt.
     
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    I prefer a person who can turn a dime into a dollar, unlike Obama who can possibly manage a Rita's water ice stand...and lose money in July! and Hillary? Unless she plays "pay to play", NO ONE will pay her for anything.
     
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    Was this supposed to be a rebuttal of my post?

    Because if it was, you might want to try reading my post again, since you didn't address one word of it.

    Instead you made up some stuff, and then argued with that. That's called a straw man argument.

    As for your rantings about the income gap, conservatives cheered for the politicians who created it, And now, you're cheering for a billionaire who hints vaguely that he might do something about it (something he has no intention of doing).
     
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    Your democratic party is just as corrupt and owned by Wall street as the republican party. Both conservative and liberal partisan hacks cheer for their corresponding parties while they sell out the American people. Case in point, your cheering for democratic corporate wh&res isn't any better or different than conservatives cheering for theirs. In fact it's even worse cause the democratic party is supposed to represent the people, not wall street, the oil, drug and insurance industries.

    You should be thrilled that republicans are about to nominate a self financed businessman who is not beholden to anyone's interests and intends to bring back jobs and help middle class. But of course your party is more important to your ilk than your country.
     
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    Assumes facts not in evidence.
     
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    We need Donald Trump;

    1) like we need a hole in the head
    2) like we need cancer.
    3) like we a need a thermonuclear war.
    4) like we need Hillary Clinton.
    5) Not !!!!​
     
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    So you never bothered to even read your own link?

     
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    Oh but I did read it. It's called "why Democrats fear Trump" and it's all about democrats fearing Trump. Your one cherry-picked out of context quote is nothing else but a sign of desperation and lost debate. Pretty lame if you asked me. But here is more:

    Hillary could lose to Trump in New York
    http://nypost.com/2016/02/28/hillary-could-lose-to-trump-in-democratic-new-york/

    How about that? Still gleeful? :D
     
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    My biggest fear is that Americans will think Trump is a conservative. When he is most certainly not.

    Conservatism is not an idea, it is not "conserving things".

    It is a way of life based on experience and rooted in the ideas of individual freedom, property rights, a civil society and limited government. We have not had a conservative in the White House in a very, very long time. And, based on what I see around me, I doubt we ever will again.
     
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    You were caught out by your own article so you deflect instead of admitting that you were wrong.

    Typical T-Rump supporter!

    :roflol:
     
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    The article was called "Why democrats fear Trump". The article in its entirety was dedicated to the Democrats' fear of running against Trump. Your cherry-picking and taking one quote out of context is a sign of desperation and poor debating skills.

    Rest assured you're not fooling anyone. Democrats are terrified of Trump and your personal attacks notwithstanding this is one point you are utterly unable to refute.
     

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