First, I absolutely do NOT want to sell one of my weapons to someone who intends to do evil with it. I carry a weapon in the first place to PREVENT evil from taking place. That said, how do you enforce it? I have a legal carry permit, issued by the state of Florida. And while one could reasonably conclude from that fact that I own at least one weapon, I personally know people who also have CCW's who do NOT (currently anyway) own a single weapon. In theory, no government agency, local, state, or federal, knows what I own. Now given all the NSA bull(*)(*)(*)(*), they might actually know (or think they know) what I own, they could be mistaken and even if they're not, they're in violation of federal law for keeping records they're statutorily prohibited from keeping. Given that, even if "universal background checks" were required, how would they ever (legally) know if I sold (or bought) a weapon from someone? To qualify, I think they probably DO know, at least to a high probability. But that's because I don't trust them to follow the law, and for them to admit it would be tantamount to admitting they are, in fact, in violation of the law.
Or they could pick up a hammer. Or they could steal a car and run someone over. No, the issue isn't whether or not they could attack someone. The real issue is you don't want them to be able to put up a fight with the police.
About a year ago, I had a gun stolen out of my locked truck. It was sitting in my driveway about 20' from my door. I didn't sell the gun nor would a law strengthening background checks kept someone I didn't know or a murderer, rapist, child molester, etc. from being the one that got it. The person that stole it could have just broken out of prison.
Even with background checks, the person that stole my gun about a year ago would have been an escaped murderer, child molester, rapist, etc or someone that wanted to be one. - - - Updated - - - With background checks, that type of person can still get a gun.
Well, you may find that a particular gun doesn't suit your purposes anymore. For example, if you quit deer hunting, you might want to sell your deer rifle. Or, you may have upgraded to a better gun for a purpose, and want some cash to buy yet another gun. In terms of background check, I would love to have the option of doing a NICS check on somebody I sold to. I would be against being required to do so--for example, if I were giving a gun to my kids or selling one to either of my brothers (no criminal records for either of them).
Then you have the option of selling through an FFL. - - - Updated - - - Well, we do have background checks for commercial transactions. The thing is, universal background checks will do nothing to keep that escapee or wanted person from getting a gun. - - - Updated - - - Before NICS, at a gun show, I heard and saw several gun dealers refuse to sell to a guy who was acting agitated, etc. Many gun dealers are ex-cops and have a good nose for criminals.
Bovine Excrement. Supporting unconstitutional and useless infringements upon people's rights is to support authoritarianism and tyranny. "They who would surrender essential liberty to purchase some temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." I can't believe you resurrected a thread 4 years old!
why did you necro this stupid thread. wanting background checks that cannot be enforced=wasting the time and money of America
background checks prevent hundreds of thousands of gun dealers from selling a gun to dangerous criminals, illegal aliens and terrorists. truly mind boggling that anyone would oppose them. not saying the NICS system is perfect, it surely needs fixes and updates, but scrapping the whole idea is insane and frankly dangerous to the American people
yet there is no evidence whatsoever that this decreased violent crime we have no information if those people had malfeasance on their minds or if they were not able to get guns another way. you tend to support harassment of gun owners just for the sake of harassment.
yet ATF doesn't have the time or resources to prosecute those people you just bragged about that were stopped by the BGC. so its obvious you don't even have a realistic belief this would happen.
tens of thousands of prohibited gun buyers are rejected from buying a gun every year due to NICS checks. thank God.
that's because Republicans Congressmen are SLAVES to the NRA and refuse to give ATF the funds or personnel to do their job.
With background checks, you may be selling your gun to the friend of someone who just got out of prison or hacks a lengthy record of violence. You better not take that chance and make the friend buy new from the FFL.
yes, background checks cant stop straw sales. but not every criminal has a non-criminal buddy who can buy a gun for him.
You know more about criminals than I do. Give sellers direct access to NICS, and those private sellers who do not wish to sell to felons will screen out their buyers. Winning.
the ATF shouldn't even exist. and trying to harass people selling guns without a stupid Background check is not something I want my tax dollars being used for very few criminals get their guns from people who don't know the buyer is a mope
That's because they don't understand that they aren't enforceable on criminals and will only serve to harass law abiding citizens.
