Well the socialized medicine death panel did their dirty deed in England

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  1. Bear513

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    Lobsters boiling in a pot of hot water ...they don't know they a dying slowly...but that's how socialism is..


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    Come on in the waters lovely!
     
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    Absolutely he wrote it on his facebook page, did you not read it!
     
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    Why pretend you do not know this? Politics.[/QUOTE]

    I would have thought that was standard procedure. Is Ddyad right about that claim?
    Don't doctors bother to visit their patients in the US?
     
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    doctors don't make house calls in USA any more
     
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    It is not an argument it is an obvious fact. OTH, your post is just more ad hominem irrational nonsense.
     
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    More irrational nonsense. They are killing the child. Humane executions are quick not prolonged.
    There is nothing remotely humane about the conduct of either the hospital or the government that has ordered the killing.
     
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    Right. It's irrational to think hospice care for a dying child is more appropriate than shooting him in the head.
     
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    You are straight talking out of your ass, and you're doing so because you know that there is a Titanic-sized hole in the BS narrative pro-UHC progs have attempted in the Charlie Gard case.
     
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    I see. ;-)
     
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    You were the one squawking about debating with integrity, and - yet - here you are, willfully conflating a hyperbolic statement intended to make a point, with literalism.
     
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    Source?
     
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    Yet another empty reply. Why dodge the question? Why not just admit the obvious truth, and stop pretending you don't know that doctors do not have to "visit" patients to know every detail of their condition?
    Why let politics push you into denying the obvious?
     
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    It was an idiotic and dishonest statement. Literally no one is saying anything like that should happen.
     
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    I would have thought that was standard procedure. Is Ddyad right about that claim?
    Don't doctors bother to visit their patients in the US?[/QUOTE]

    Yes, Virginia doctors visit patients. This child has apparently been visited by squads of Doctors and tested extensively. His medical condition has been thoroughly documented.
    In the age of Digital Medical Records every detail can be sent in seconds for review by any licensed doctor the parents choose. This is the 21st century, not the 19th.
     
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    If you want to complain about honest debate, then you should lead by example - and you didn't. Everyone knows that ddyad's statement was intentionally hyperbolic, including you.
     
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    So he made a pointless post that served no purpose in the debate except to cloud the issue and I should have treated him seriously?
     
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    England hasn't really demonstrated value of life other than the monarchy since well before the bronze age, Long live the king and God save the Queen and all that you know, hardly a mention of the peasant.
     
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    Straightaway. As soon as you condemn the lies promulgated by your fellow leftists. But you didn't - and still haven't, even after I pointed them out to you - because you have placed your leftism, and defense of other leftists, above defense of the truth, and integrity in debate.

    You didn't say that Charlie Gard was brain dead, but you also have piggybacked the narrative of those who have without condemnation of their attempt. That makes you guilty by association.

    We are not going to tolerate BAMN here.
     
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    <Mod Edit - Rule 3> It was Herculean even to get them to chuck the EU, and that decision of the people is still being fought tooth and nail.

    Don't pretend otherwise. Socialism - among other things - kills the spirit, and - with it - a desire to oppose despotism.

    <Mod Edit - Rule 3>
     
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    It's amazing how cloudy it gets in your head when the light of truth attempts to shine down on it.
     
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    I'll be wholly entertained to see Bowerbird attempt to source the claim, and then be forced to reconcile how anesthesia blocks pain receptors to the brain - preventing the brain from processing incoming signals as pain - with this claim that the reason that Charlie shouldn't undergo an experimental treatment because it will cause 'cruel and unusual pain and suffering'.

    We all know that the argument was an appeal to emotion based upon bullsht, and that's why Bowerbird will go no further in answering this challenge.
     
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    Please look at the opening post where Logical 1 states the child is brain dead, the depth of your hypocrisy is clear! Now you were wrong about what I said, you have been exposed and you don't like it, learn to live with it, learn to check your facts. Stuff your guilt by association and what you will tolerate! You made stuff up, you got found out, cry me a river.
     
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    No, that would just be a mistake on your part - in my opinion.
    It is your use of ad hominem that is irrational.
     
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    That poster's response is one that I would expect from an insane fictional character.
     

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