What did Russia do to the election again?

Except every point he made was factual. What, if any of it can you dispute? It's irrefutable.

 

Sorry actually he presented no evidence. The fact that he doesn't accept the findings of the American intelligence agencies is not evidence but opinion. Very similar to Trump who is willing to believe his buddy Putin over the concensus of American intelligence.

 

Redirected us to what exactly?

 

It's the bad guys creating a diversion again. The last big diversion was the 'WMD Hoax' they created in order to get their hands on the Iraki oil fields and manipulate them. This time it's the 'Putin Hack Hoax' so they can legitimize getting their hands on the oil fields/pipelines in Syria and to cover-up the American coup in the Ukraine. The old 'Communist Horde Hoax' they used in Cuba and Vietnam and Iran and Central America and South America etc. is no longer valid so they've concocted new ones.

What about Franklin Delano Rosenfeldt?

 

You left out the most important bit of your response ...... who are "they". You do have someone in mind, yes? Tell us who that is. Otherwise, your statement is worthless.

 

Thank you.

 

Holy ****! Talk about trolling!

 

It really does not matter what in context but, the Chaos and disarray in our society are a desired side effect....anything that harms America is good in his eyes.

 

Yes, I'm a Russian troll. I'm surprised it has taken you so long to realise it. (Jeez this is so depressing. )

 

They are the ones who have yet to present any evidence.

They've been politicized.

"the FBI didn't even get to look at the DNC server. Since when does the FBI takes a private firm's word for it? The only evidence we have seen came from VIPS which showed the DNC hack was an inside job. And that is where the evidence stands.

This was politically driven, by the democrats, and that explains the lack of evidence. Even the evaluation from those three intel agencies presented no evidence. Their conclusion was based on , "feelings". Not evidence."

All this is true in his statement above.

 

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They = the Russia Truthers

"They" are the ones that "believe"

 

He did act...and was ignored

 

Did The Obama lie when he said the elections were clean, pure, and that we better except the results of them even though he knew Putin was hacking it?

 

Just because you don't like the opinions of our intelligence agencies doesn't make them politicized. And you have seen no evidence that it was an inside job unless you want to take the word of Gussifer2 over thst of the FBI and CIA.

 

Two different things. While there were attempts at hacking the voting process so far we are still led to believe they were unsuccessful.

 

Got it.

 

Just exactly what effect does this intelligence agency consensus tell us that the Russians dastardly meddling had? Did it cause Hillary to lose? Was that how it dimmed our sun?

We were born in chaos and disarray but we step up when it's necessary. The Russians can go piss in their hats, they are not a problem in either our politics or our world position.

 

....Ever think that pointing it out IS a part of "Stepping Up"?

 

After evaluating what little evidence we have of russian interference, I have tenatively concluded that this was a political driven ruse, with the help of the partisans and deep staters, within our gov't.

This entire ruse has looked shady from the start, and has only been enforced by the mysterious lack of hard evidence. And that is a smoke which intimate a fire, the fire created by politics and deep state operatives within the CIA. The same sort of people who gave us the intel which led us into the biggest blunder in modern history, the invasion and change of gov't in Iraq.

Of course, russia may have spent some money with the head Voodoo Priestess in New Orleans, and cast a spell on the election, with monkey bone ash and a gold nugget from the end of a rainbow. And of course you cannot spot magic so easily, and provide evidence for that being used. And so they got away with putting the Voodoo on the election.

And we have found the same amount of evidence for this ruse being true as we have found for the Voodoo spell. I think I will choose the magic spell, for it makes more sense.

 

I agree with the exception of one line: "The same sort of people who gave us the intel which led us into the biggest blunder in modern history, the invasion and change of gov't in Iraq."
That was no "blunder". It was a complete success for American politicians and businessmen. They achieved exactly what they planned to achieve. It was not bad "intel". They simply lied to you. It was no blunder, no mistake.

 

What Did Russia Do

And When Did They Do It ?​

And was it truly nothing hasn't done ten or one hundred fold more



If not exceptionalism, who?

 

What about Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin excuse

War We Must
Could Boeing and Lockheed survive without it?




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* And Operation TP Ajax.
* And the American missiles in Turkey aimed at large, populated cities in the Soviet Union. (read the Cuban Missile Crisis) It ought to have been called "the Turkish Missle Crisis".

 

Whether or not there is "proof" that "what Russia did" influenced even one voter, the fact of the matter is that (according to a criminal jury in 1995) there was no "proof" that O.J. killed his wife.

"Proof" is in the eye of the beholder.

And just like many people had differing views of "what O.J did", many have different views of "what Russia did".

It is what it is.