What Do You Gain By Denying Climate Change?

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  1. WallStreetVixen

    WallStreetVixen New Member

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    Just pointing out how much this severe winter has effected the marketplace.

    There were less people who missed work due to the weather in Winter 2013, than in Winter 2012, 2010, 2009, or 2008.

    Uncanny...

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  2. WWJD

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    What agenda? What would power such a diabolical scheme? The desire to take you out of your car and put you on a tricycle? Judging by the intellectual level of your post, I think you might enjoy a tricycle more.
     
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    Somehow, I think that joke/insult was supposed to go differently...

    Oh well...
     
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    And as the Jet stream continues to weaken, crappy arctic weather will continue to drop further south.

    The jet stream is powered by the differences in energy between north and south. Much in the same way a batteries charge is a difference between terminals and the energy stored.

    When the difference is small, the jet stream is slow, and a slow jet stream meanders like a slow moving river. That meandering is what brings the southern U.S. Canadian weather. Enjoy.
     
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    The graph appears to end Nov 2013. Do you have something similar covering dec13 and jan-feb 14?
     
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    As I recall, you've described yourself as someone to travels a great deal for business. So why would I, a telecommuter who no doubt has a much tinier carbon footprint than you, take you seriously when you talk about climate change? You are not walking the walk. So how can I even believe that you believe it when you are living like oil is 50 cents a barrel?

    Maybe I'll pay attention when the people who say they believe in man made climate change actually start acting like it.
     
  7. WallStreetVixen

    WallStreetVixen New Member

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    That's nice, but the effect the weather has had on the marketplace was practically non-existent. There are, and will always be, fluctuations with weather severity. As I have explained before, it is not an indicator of potential problems regarding Climate Change.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Speaking strictly of the anthropogenic claim, I gain the same thing by denying that as I do by denying any other great money-grabbing lie, like organised religion..

    I also have to chuckle at severe weather being treated as evidence for such a claim. You might just as well claim that those things are evidence that God's pissed and the world's about to end.
     
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    Wow, so much desperate grasping, I don't know where to begin.
    FACT:Sea Ice has not been melting at at a record predicted by the ICPP. Trends in 2012 and 2013 show the opposite.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-20-years-Arctic-sea-ice-started-recover.html
    FACT:The Ocean heat sink theory has recently come out as a hypothesis to explain why temperatures have remained steady or decreased for the last seventeen years. It's not proven science. So by tossing that out there as if it's a actual rebuttal to pointing out the obvious, you're wasting my time and embarrassing yourself.
     
  10. WallStreetVixen

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    It does cover December 13 and February 14. There are five month separations between the months that are placed on the y -axis. When I created the graph, it was in February. The next month that should appear on the axis is April, which you will not see because it has not happened yet.
     
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    There always has been? What period are you talking about? And is facing a sea level rise of 23 feet, something that has happened in the history of the USA?

    Suggesting that calamity has happened before, and therefore man should accept calamity again, seems to be self destructive.

    In reality the CO2 level is already too high and it is too late to do anything about it. Greenland will thaw and drastic change will be seen within a 100 years. So denying the effect of CO2 at this point simply means that you are not preparing yourself for the reality.

    As for the markets, they are effected by corruption, CO2 doesn't have much of an effect on in front trading.
     
  12. WWJD

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    The daily mail? LMAO.

    You have to take me more seriously. I know I am new, here but I am not a dunce, so start bringing your A game.

    The Antarctic has shown some increase to ice levels. This can be explained by the huge hole in the Ozone layer, and the fact that the winds around Antarctica have increased to the point where topical winds are kept from mixing with the colder southern air. Ocean currents have also been slowed by the influx of fresh water, which has also acted as an antarctic insulator.

    Reading the daily mail might be good enough for you. But you should really understand the science so that you can see through the deception. You are not uncovering a massive hoax by denying climate change. Rather you are becoming a big brother minion to the powers who have a vested interest in denying basic science.
     
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    That's not how roads and schools get built. Mogadishu is virtually free from any nasty government interference in the capitalist system. Those guys must want for nothing!

    I am concerned about the large quasi-taxes attached to adaptation.

    You see, I don't see that its a hoax. Nobody denies the basic science of the greenhouse effect nor that we are increasing the drivers and that pumping up the drivers will eventually increase the effect. What remains for dispute is the timing, locality, direction and scale of the effects. That's a lot of things to be uncertain about.
    If we assume an adaptation -based strategy, we are most likey to spend a fortune on ineffective measures.

    The least cost and most certain strategy to deal with the issue is prevention.
     
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    Its a surprising result, given the severity of the weather. Is there a theory as to how we are getting better at managing the interruptions?
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, it's unfortunate. The guy obviously puts a lot of time into forums, I just wish he'd put in enough time to try to honestly understand what someone else is saying. I mean, really, he parsed my post down to half a sentence, and then asked what I have to add of climate issues, when the second sentence of my post on was about climate issues. :wall:
     
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    lol. Science is a lie. The earth is only 6,000 years old.
     
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    So you can't debunk nothing I said. Better luck next time.
     
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    Confirmed: Independent Peer-Reviewed NIPCC Report Finds No Link Between Man and Climate Change
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...finds-no-link-between-man-and-climate-change/
    The latest independent peer-reviewed NIPCC scientific report found no link between human activity and climate change.
    “The human impact on global climate is small, and any warming that may occur as a result of human carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gas emissions is likely to have little effect on global temperatures, the cryosphere (ice-covered areas), hydrosphere (oceans, lakes, and rivers), or weather.

    Seems that Mother Nature still is the master of this earth no matter what we mere mortals claim.
     
  19. WallStreetVixen

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    I live in NYC and I know the state handles these things very seriously, and has even called a state of emergency regarding the blizzard. It's possible that state governments have gotten better when it comes to their response time in immobilizing snow plows and evacuating important areas.

    Or, it could just be that people were too broke to consider taking time off work.
     
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    Children love choice. Irresponsible people love choice. Greedy people love choice. The rest of us live with within our means, and our resources are limited.

    Pollution is pollution whether Climate change is a certainty or not. Pollution harms people or the environment, so it makes sense to reduce it with less-polluting alternatives.
     
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    You do that. The rest of us normal people will continue to live our lives the way we want.
     
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    It's not what we gain, its what we don't lose, like our money ---for having to pay more for everything, and losing time from thinking about a phony crisis.
     
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    From the early 1900's, onward.

    I don't understand.

    Calamity will always occur. I don't suggest letting it happen, but properly preparing for it. To suggest there is anything we can do to stop it is pointless.

    Good.

    Quite the contrary.

    I'm not referring to the stock market.
     
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    Exactly correct! Lets actually hear from the lefties what their actual "secret" new energy source is. I keep asking but they just blurt heat, cold, tornadoes, this winter was colder than last with no solution. Other than whining about big oil where is this new lefty source of energy. If you don't have one I suggest you deal with climate change because people need to eat and in order to feed our population every single person reading this is surviving on gallons and gallons and gallons of oil just to get you bacon and eggs. Your little prius isn't even a decimal point on the scale that the world needs oil to move goods people need in order to survive.
    Its also great how Al Gore has a 10000 square foot vacation home he keeps heated all the time and spends thousands of gallons of jet fuel flying around the world telling everybody how evil people are that use oil. LOL you cant make this stuff up. Lefties are a riot.
    P.S.
    Good thing those of us with guns will be the last ones standing.
     
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    ^_- rly? It sounds like your reducing 'choice' to a very narrow and limited area. I just had my teeth pulled and had several choices about where to go. I found one with a reputable staff and with competitive prices. Seriously just left their office about three or four hours ago, hoping that the painkiller starts giving me a funny feeling - they said I can't drive while on it, so I sure hope it has some opiates. That tooth came out in 9 pieces - boy that was not fun!
     

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