What does 'woke' mean?

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  1. Pollycy

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    Social skills can be very beneficial for a number of applications, but as far as qualifying for entry into a university is concerned, only college entrance scores should be considered. That's the only way, as I said before, that we can be certain that a candidate is judged on ONLY the criteria that matter -- those that are related to academic achievement, and the likelihood that an entrant will be able to embrace the demands and rigors of higher education requirements -- and SUCCEED!

    A person's race, ethnic background, cultural heritage, or any other distant, peripheral factors should NOT be considered, so that complete fairness for all candidates is maintained....
     
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    What is the measurement of success? I'd argue it's not graduating, but rather going on to have a successful career. That's what makes the college look good and is the true purpose of its existence anyway, not just finishing wherever they set the bar. Some niches are better filled by people who come from the subculture of that niche, e.g. the black doctor for a black women example. Universities are also a place for all kinds of enrichment - making social connections at Ivy League schools (can be especially critical for lawyers), and extracurricular activities that set people apart from just getting A's. So no, even for a university, it's far more than test scores. Test scores might be the most important thing, but not the only thing.
     
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    Sure. It was all fun and games until a girl was thrown to the floor in the school bathroom and sodomized by a male in a skirt. And until average male athletes dominated women sports ending their sports careers and preventing scholarships designed to be obtained by actual women.
    It was fine until the violations of the rights of others began.

    And, these are the kinds of endless back and forths with the Woke that are wearing thin.

    When the Woke Silence and Violate the Rights of Others

    THREAD: TWITTER’S SECRET BLACKLISTS:

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    TWITTER FILES PART TWO: Blacklists and shadowbanning. “Anyone who guessed that conservative voices were targeted and put on these lists by Twitter, come collect your prize.”

    Anything that goes against the Woke Narrative must be silenced!
     
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    PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO DO THEIR JOBS OUGHT TO BE FIRED, PERIOD: WOKE California English teacher says proper grammar is ‘white supremacist,’ refuses to teach it.

    It's literally her job to teach english and she refuses.

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    The Self-Righteous Woke Farce.

    High School English teachers is not a fan of writing rules and grammar usage, and claims that she undermines "white supremacy" by combating it.

    She's also not a fan of public education and felt the need to share all these views on TikTok: "public education is an institution that upholds lots of problematic systems in our society, like white supremacy and misogyny and colonization, et cetera.”

    It's probably long past time she was no longer part of it.

    Woke 'English teacher says that grammar and writing rules are based in white supremacy so she tries to undermine it in her classroom.'

    She's not a fan of proper syntax and grammar. They '“are all made up rules. They're arbitrary. They were created by Westerners in power, in linguistic justice” and part of "white supremacy" that "runs deep," adding that she tries “to undermine that BS in my classroom as much as I can.”'

    Well, thanks for sharing that on TikTok.

    Wokism is wearing thin.
     
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    The Mystery of Woke Capitalism.

    Moths to Flames: 'Disney has a new/old CEO in Bob Iger, and many speculated that he would pull back on that company’s extreme leftism. But not for long: yesterday he expounded on the duty of corporations to oppose constitutional gun rights:'

    He's learned nothing.

    “As a grandfather, as a father, as CEO of The Walt Disney Company, I believe there is no greater or more important task than ensuring the safety and well-being of our children.”

    'Iger wasn’t talking about protecting children against sex-change operations or gay grooming.'

    Of course not.

    'Kudos to Senator Cotton and others, like Governor Ron DeSantis, who refuse to be played for suckers by woke big business.'
     
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    Woke means - Don't fall for white supremacist tricknology.
     
  7. LiveUninhibited

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    That kind of thing happened before the trans movement. A bathroom in an isolated place (or at a time of few people) is a decent place to ambush somebody for any kind of violent act. You're just looking for an excuse to blame them. But a real trans person, like any other non-predator, goes to the bathroom and does their business without bothering anybody else. There are already gay guys who use the men's room, but I don't worry about them sodomizing somebody smaller than them. It's just not an issue that is actually exacerbated by letting real trans people use the restroom in peace. Somebody who wants to use a bathroom to get somebody doesn't need people to accept trans to go into either bathroom (disguised if they want) and wait in a stall to ambush somebody.

    Even people who support trans don't necessarily accept the sports part. It's like a woman on steroids - a clearly unfair advantage and new rules need to be made to determine what conditions are needed for when, if ever, somebody born a male can compete as a female.

    Na, I don't agree with suppressing speech to protect anybody's feelings. Nobody has the right to not be offended.
     
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    but now we're tearing down safeguards that would cause someone to say something if they saw a man walk into the woman's restroom.

    That's not a good idea. I wouldn't understand why trans people would want to be victims of this either.
    blame who? This is a bit of a con job that people have been pulling on this argument for quite some time and I'm going to iterate it here for you.

    Nobody cares if chance people's feelings are hurt by this very reasonable social safety measure.
    so it's okay for a trans women to be attacked and possibly sexually assaulted by men who just walks into the women's restroom?

    Again why is this a good idea explain?
    how do you determine if someone is a real trans person or not?
    but attacking people for trying to control this place where it could be dangerous is a stupid idea.

    There's no real trans person anybody who says they're trans is trans.

    I am trans I'm 6'8 and I have a full beard and if I want to go sit in the ladies room and you tell me I shouldn't be in there you're being transphobic.

    I also stand up to pee.


    I'm a bit of a lasse fair type of person with this sort of thing. With an exception of school sports if women want to accept trans women coming in and dominating them and their sports that's their business. I've been shouted by enough feminists but they don't need no man then they can deal with this themselves.

    So if I'm walking into a ladies room to do my stand-up pee and someone says sorry that's the ladies room it's okay if they offend me because I'm a man and I shouldn't be going in there and doing stand-up pees cuz women probably aren't going to like it.
     
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  10. Pollycy

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    I agree wholeheartedly that mere 'graduation' from a university is not the most important "measurement of success"! It may be the pinnacle of achievement, say, for 'trust-fund babies' and those who need not trouble themselves with working for a living after they graduate, but surely for the rest of us, obtaining a fully-fledged college degree in a field of study that can open the doors to a beneficial career field is essential.

    But, back to the issue of who is accepted for enrollment into a university, I still cannot think of a more fundamentally FAIR way to guarantee that no one is actually 'discriminated' against than to use standard college entry examinations. Consider: it should be our goal as a nation to have a truly 'color-blind', 'ethnicity-blind' society. That Black woman you mentioned should feel completely comfortable and confident in being attended to by a White physician, or an East-Asian (Oriental) physician, and/or a physician of any other racial 'sub-set' or ethnicity. And surely, excellence in every career field is greatly desirable for the advancement of civilization as a whole....

    Long view: In another two or three hundred years, there will likely be only be ONE race (because of interbreeding), and it will be a blend of the best parts of all three of the major racial divisions within humanity. To get there, first we must be 'color-blind' and 'ethnicity-blind' in the treatment of everyone... and that certainly includes those who are accepted to our colleges and universities.
     
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    You get punched in the face alot? Ouch!
     
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    And in American culture, woman means adult human female. Wokesters want to change that: hence the culture wars.

    Not wanting to date transgenders is considered deplorable by wokesters.
     
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    Not at all. I'm very peaceable and very big. I also never discuss politics or religion unless coerced.
     
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    Who you want to date, **** or marry is your private business. This is among the very first principles of "wokesterism".
     
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    MORE LIKE THIS, PLEASE: Texas Legislative Committee Subpoenas Woke Authoritarian BlackRock Over ESG Investing.

    In Italian National Socialism (NAZI) they control the population through crony corporations. This is what Wokesters here are attempting, only far beyond national. Fortunately some GOP States are stepping up to the challenge posed by the authoritarians who are trying to implement controls over society that a Free People, through their Free Legislatures would never agree to.

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    "In August, the Texas Senate Committee on State Affairs requested documents from the financial firms BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, and Institutional Shareholder Services. The State Affairs Committee is studying the investment practices of financial services firms and how those practices affect the state’s public pensions. It is responsible for ensuring the state’s public pension funds are not being invested in furthering political or social causes.'

    Way to keep an eye on these Woke Rights Violating Bastards - Naturally these Woke Bastards didn't cooperate with the Elected Legislature of the Free State of Texas.

    "Now, Texas has issued a subpoena to BlackRock to provide documents in person for failure to produce the requested records. Representatives of the asset manager are ordered to appear on December 15, the same day the State Affairs Committee has called to convene the entire committee for a hearing. The committee requested that the “Big Three” asset managers — BlackRock, State Street Global Advisors (State Street), and Vanguard — appear. They also want to speak with Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS)."

    Show up, or they'll issue a bench warrant.

    "The purpose, as mentioned above, is to discuss the effects of environmental, social, and governance (ESG) policies on the state’s pensions programs. These policies are called ESG investing or “woke capital.” The Big Three have a history of using the leverage of their combined proxy votes in shareholder meetings to influence company strategy, operations, and policy to benefit almost exclusively left-wing causes."

    And you will testify under oath.

    So @Bush Lawyer are you getting a sense of why we hate these rights violating authoritation woke bastards?
     
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    Guess I'm not a wokester. I wouldn't date one. There are people who do though, and good for them. I just want a culture that lets people live as they wish, delusional or not, when it doesn't harm others, though.
     
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    Transgenderism is doing a great deal of harm. Children and young people are being tricked into modifying their bodies irreversibly and later regret it.

    The wokesters behind this grooming and propogandizing have a lot to answer for.
     
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    Roughly 60% Of Students Fear Expressing Their Views In Woke Higher Education; New Poll Finds

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    'Most faculties are overwhelmingly Democratic and liberal. Diversity generally runs from the left to the far left...'

    That's where the woke infected hang out.

    Jonathan Turley:
    'The poll of over 800 students included many liberal students, as reflected in the 67 percent who would require all professors and administrators to make statements in favor of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Half of students believe “America is inextricably linked to white supremacy” and another 33 percent would prefer to live in a socialist system.'

    Viewpoint intolerance on campus is widespread and pervasive.

    Americans are getting more and more fed up with these virtue signalling woke authoritarian rights violating bastards.
     
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    And is she just one person or is this a government edict about to be enforced

    More right wing wokeism
     
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    Why those that love the Right To Rule Ourselves Hate WOKE.

    DISPATCHES FROM THE WOKE EDUCATION APOCALYPSE: Editor of Prestigious Psychology Journal Fired for Soliciting Criticism of Tendentious Article by Black Academic Claiming that Color-Blindness is Akshually Racism.

    Disagree with the WOKE narrative? No job for you!

    'That led to a petition, published December 2 and signed by over 1,000 psychologists, that called for Fielder’s dismissal — and, shortly thereafter, to an email from Robert Gropp, the executive director of the Association for Psychological Science (APS), which publishes the journal, arguing that Fiedler had violated the journal’s “diversity and inclusion policies,” according to an email obtained by the Washington Free Beacon. Gropp demanded that Fiedler resign or, he said, “the APS will move forward with terminating your editorship.”'

    Asking for opposing viewpoints in a peer reviewed publication "violates" DIE policies?

    'Fielder told the Free Beacon on Tuesday that he had submitted his resignation, adding that Gropp and his colleagues never asked for his version of events.'

    They have no interest, you dared to question the Woke Narrative, they do not allow questioning, they allow loud statements of agreement.

    'Though Roberts, the Stanford psychologist, was invited to reply to the critiques, which are forthcoming with the journal, he pulled his paper after becoming convinced that the debate was “rigged” against him, he told the Chronicle of Higher Education. He then published the paper on a preprint service, PsyArXiv, on December 2, along with his email exchanges with Fiedler, which he claimed provided evidence of his unfair treatment–and, he implied, of Fiedler’s own racism.'

    With the Woke Calling the Shots in Academia:

    …”In some ways, there’s no news here,” Jussim said. “This is now normal in academia.”

    The Woke are out to destroy academia and science, BUT, in the end Freedom Wins in America!

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    WOKE Regression:

    SEGREGATION NOW, SEGREGATION TOMORROW, SEGREGATION FOREVER: Students of color allowed ‘safe space’ without white males at Pomona College.

    COLORED ONLY SPACES IN ACADEMIA

    'A Students of Color Alliance lounge that requires students fill out a form listing what identity-based group they belong to before being granted electronic ID card swipe access to the venue has been established at an elite private college in Southern California.'

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    Exactly. Progressives are the biggest prudes since 1950!
     
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    Which is just another way of saying privileged and bored.

    When you're so comfortable that you have to invent 'problems' to ward of the ennui, you're way too comfortable.
     
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    I apologize for not being clear, I was talking about conservatives. Progressives view "woke" as a slur.
     
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    Not force so much as demand. When these people ask others to participate in their delusion, they're engaging in narcissism. All we can expect from interactions with those outside our 'in group', is that they don't kill us. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

    Want to be civil and compassionate? Don't demand special attention - especially when it comes at the discomfort and embarrassment of those around you. It's both arrogant, and incredibly rude.
     
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