What happens if Obama wins in 2012?

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  1. hopeless_in_2012

    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    Thanks for your great insight as always.../sarcasm/ :fart:
     
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    algranny New Member

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    Thanks, Insults shouldn't be necessary in civil debates. Treating each other respectfully is almost a lost art form. LOL
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    You're welcome.
     
  4. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Do you know what paradox is?
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Living steeped in that amount of bile takes years off of your lifespan.
    Thinning the herd of the right-wingers who would suffer the greatest brain farts after Obama gets re-elected is a good thing.
    The country can't prosper with their corrosive influence and they have proven to be too intransigent to adapt.
    Unreconstructed reactionaries have no real future in the world anyway since they are eternally on the wrong side of history.
     
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    It would convince me that the Republic is finally dead.
     
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    big daryle New Member

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    Alas, Brewskier, it may be too late already.
     
  8. hopeless_in_2012

    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    I am willing to vote for almost anyone that I believe can repair our ailing economy. This would include Dems, Repubs, Independents. My views on all of the other issues are of far less significance right now. Repairing our economy is as much about working across party lines and making concessions as it is having good ideas. This is why I like Gingrich, his ideals and morals are very different than mine, but that has little relevance right now.
    I believe he will be able to get things done, he does not have radical ideas, he has been called a backstabber to the GOP and also Clintons nemesis. How could he be both? Easy...he says what he believes and backs what he thinks are the best choices given the situation. These choices (*)(*)(*)(*) off the Gop sometimes and the Libs other times. Yes he has changed his stance on many issues, this I see as a strength except in cases of obvious "say what they like to here" politics. A man that can adapt and change with circumstances and economic climate is a man that can actually use common sense.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    Do you mean pair of ducks?
     
  10. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    1. We hold American citizenship. There is nothing you can do to stop us from dissenting and resisting. You can't make us invest in America.

    2. Your side will not have the same degree of power it did in 2009 and 2010. That means you won't be able to force your agenda down our throats.

    3. Your side can't succeed because the position of America in the world has changed for the worse. Historical processes have taken over and will grind down the Blue Model of governance. Look at California as an example of what the future holds in store for you.

    4. History has no side. It is neither linear nor cyclical. It is random.

    5. The American public school system has generally failed to prepare its students to compete successfully with their foreign competitors. Americans are generally poorly educated. This means that the reservoir of human capital is drying up.

    6. It no longer makes sense to invest and create jobs in America. The regulatory and tax burdens are too high, and the work force is unprepared.

    7. No society, nation, polity, state, empire or other political entity in all of human history has survived an extended and prolonged period of financial instability. None. The result is always the same. The existing order collapses.

    8. Venting bile is better than holding it in. It makes me happy and ruins your day.
     
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    Yep, as soon as Obama's subsidized green energy folks develop fusion, we will be gravy considering we aren't expanding any fossil fuel production or strengthening the dollar.
    How do you force a bank to lend? Will this force create an unintended negative? Would you lend money at serious risk to small business for 3.5% return? Do you support the market setting interest rates?

    If we keep reducing the strength of our dollar, our trade deficit will continue to erode. Do you consider this a positive?

    Currently, Obama opposes domestic energy production through methods that are economically and technically possible, supports manipulation of interest rates and monetary supply which provides instability for business in general including lenders and borrowers, and opposes a more simplistic flatter tax which would eliminate the ability for the government to reward market losers.

    He really just plain out sucks.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    I don't know what will happen when Obama wins, but if he loses the obstructionist Republican congress will begin to gnaw each other's legs off like the rodents they are.
     
  13. Albert Di Salvo

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    The divisions in the country are too great to be reconciled under any set of circumstances. The existing political order should dissolve peacefully and allow power to devolve to the constituent elements. Then everyone should have the option of going their own way.
     
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    I would agree with you...if it's the truth...why get over it?....you righties are just stuck in the land of hostile
     
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    According to the Republicans, the United States would completely disintigrate. Remember Ghost Busters:

    "It would be badÂ… Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light."
     
  16. Albert Di Salvo

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    What Bush experienced and Obama is experiencing is the new normal in the way presidents are treated. No nation can survive such corrosive forces.

    Most conservatives are unlike me. What you see in me is fatalism and detachment. It's the next step after despair. If Obama is reelected this attitude will come into fashion on the right.
     
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    What are those signs of the apocalypse again? What ever they are....I'm sure that's one of them
     
  18. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    Here's one sign of the apocalypse:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKTfaro96dg"]Waiting for Superman Official Trailer - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    A "miracle" victory? Do you seriously think any of those brain damaged kooks in that right wing product of abortion can some anywhere CLOSE to beating Obama?
    Bill Maher said it best recently (paraphrasing) 'I've had some issues with Obama, but when I look at the right wing field of stupid people, I go running back into the arms of Obama'.
    It's not about the problems with Obama...it's about how putrid the right wing alternative is..
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh Al, you're a hoot.
    Do you really think that any of the idiocy that is spewed on these forums by right-wingers could ruin anyone's day?
    You people are the lunatic fringe and we see you as comic relief.
    You congregate in little inbred clans and egg each other on, thinking that the real world gives a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about your self-absorbed navel-gazing when, in reality, we see the diarrhea of defective candidates you keep trotting out and laugh at the notion that you people actually think that any of those bozos have a chance of attracting intelligent, sane voters.
    The only voters that your candidates have attracted so far are the typical guttersnipes who are looking for some new lunatic distraction to take the place of their birther obsession.
     
  21. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It depends on how big the Republicans take the Senate over. If they get 13+ seats, judging by the rout in the House in 2010 is very possible. Then Obama will be the Christmas tree of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. There for ornamental purposes only!
     
  22. Albert Di Salvo

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    Look at what you've written. Delegitimize, demonize and dehumanize.

    Whether you realize it or not pouring poison into the body politic means that the body politic dies. Btw, I'm not a Republican. I understand that the only way to defeat the left is to take down the polity itself. Thanks for the help.

    I saw a CNN poll today that says 61% of whites oppose Obama and an equal percentage of nonwhites support him. This division is the basis for deconstruction of the polity.

    Assume for the sake of argument that Obama wins reelection. That guarantees America will continue its crash approach at 500 mph right into the ground.
     
  23. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that sums up the right-wing mentality to a T.
    You people have been trying to delegitimize, demonize and dehumanize Obama since he won in 2008, and each day your hysterics grow ever more pathetic and laughable.
    When he gets re-elected, you will have wasted four years on impotent posturing while neglecting your duty as citizens and human beings and the country will indeed be the worse off for it, but the blame for that goes to the intransigent, hate-filled right-wingers who have put their sick agenda ahead of doing what is best for the country.
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    I agree. The country will suffer terribly. Tens of millions of lives will be destroyed. We are past the point where fault and blame matter.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...It's always the guilty who like to prattle on about how fault and blame don't matter.
    The decline of the US can be traced to the Nixon and Reagan presidencies.
     

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