What happens if Obama wins in 2012?

If Obama wins, the country will continue to grow, but not much will happen, unless the democrats get a super majority in the senate again, which is not going to happen.

Otherwise, we will get the republicans deciding they want to spend another 4 years trying to harm the country just so they can try to blame the democrats. They will continue to fillibuster every bill, even their own, if Obama supports it. They will continue to try to keep the economy from growing to so they can make political claims that the economy did not do well under Obama. They will continue to block any tax increases which are needed to balance the budget. They will continue to block any spending cuts to the military or farm subsidies, instead blaming the entire deficit on the small small portion of federal funding that is safety net programs. Basically nothing will change.

 

It can be traced right back to Nixon, because that is when capitalism officially died, and cronyism became the norm, but neither party did anything to correct it and most all professional politicians in the last 40 years have been enriched for their service to the rich/elites, and this master plan.

 

I read the first half dozen or so threads in this post and they all agreed that there isn't a thread of difference between the two parties, and that nothing of significance would change. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The differences between the Capitalist/Conservative/Constitutional/Christian party and the Socialist/Liberal/Multicultural/Atheist party couldn't be more stark. In fact, we're on the verge of a revolution, and if these socialists/marxists/commies/one-worlders etc do continue to hold power, then all hell is going to break loose.

How some of you see no difference between the patriotic Tea Party message and the OWS scum message is beyond me. Sure hope you nitwits don't vote.

 

The most radical, corrupt, and destructive President in US History........

.......will become that much more radical, corrupt, and destructive.
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.........the last 4 years we saw a Marxist with reservations and hopes of re-election, re-elect the Kenyan Tyrant, and you will see a suicide socialist bomber, and the official end to the Founder's 200 year experiment in Freedom.
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Your partisian blinders are actually a complete blindfold.

YOu are being led around by a ring in your nose (figuratively) by people who use strassian theory to manipulate you. Your patriotic love of God and country is blinding your view of truth and facts.

 

Didn't the Mayans have something to say about obamas 2012 victory?

 

You come from my home state of "Live Free or Die", and you're telling me that I have a blinding view of the truth and facts? Please fill me in on the truth as seen from your particular unpatriotic myopic ken.

 

I'm certain they were deeply concerned about it (not).

 

I have 3 words for this filth...

BAT (*)(*)(*)(*) CRAZY

 

The parties do have different goals; and things are typically changed 'incrementally' in America, not all at once.

 

Our only chance at future prosperity would be an obstructionist Republican Congress that could override vetoes. If the Republicans take over Congress, and Obama wins, it could be very good. A Republican Congress is what forced Clinton into positions that were very good for our country.

 

They were just repeating what happened January 20th, 2001 to GW Bush. GW came into office with the plan to be bipartisan. Didn't happen due to the recalcitrance of dems. That repeated in 2009, but with the parties switching roles.

 

and somehow you think Republicans are full of bile?

 

Yet nobody seems to notice this reality??

 

As someone else said, that is the new political equation. The same thing was done to GW Bush in 2000. It's the same old (*)(*)(*)(*), different party.

If he gets re-elected, he will have to eat his own words. There is no way he's gaining any seats in the House or Senate. Honestly, it might be the best thing that could happen for the country--a dem President with a Republican Congress.

 

Assuming the existing political order could dissolve peacefully, there wouldn't be anything peaceful between the constituent elements. It's called Balkanization.

 

I wonder why? And not about Clinton.

 

Miracle win, are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing serious? You are talking about a man who is running up against a party that is more divided than it's ever been in my entire lifetime. Obama will probably win, Ron Paul supporters will insist upon it. Like children, if they can't have their way NOBODY can.

 

I think Obama will win a second term.. and I think that gives him time to undo the errors of the past decade.

There is a learning curve for every president.

In fact.. I think the times are too difficult for the Republicans to really want to win.

Why else would they have run McCain and Palin??

 

Partisanship aside, I think you're right. I think even many Republicans will support Obama though once it is realized that Ron Paul is the nominee. Obama is definately more Republican than Dr. Paul.

 

You know the Spoils system was used in this country for all of the 1800's and into the 1900's. It only realy ended when Old Teddy gained the oval office.


But if he Obama does win I dont see much changing both sides think comprimise is a bad word. Until that changes nothing else will.

 

same thing that fellow puppets Gingrich and Romney would do,serve the establishment instead of the people and also destroy our great country as well thats why we need ron paul in since he is the only one who would not do that.

 

"Capitalist/Conservative/Constitutional/Christian party" vs "Socialist/Liberal/Multicultural/Atheist party "

First, you draw a difference claiming liberals are not capitalist and are Socialist.... Strike one for swallowing right wing propaghanda. Liberals support the use of capitalism as much as conservatives. Capitalism is a economic system used to allocate goods and services, not a political system or a religion. There may be some disagreements on the amount of regulation imposed on companies and markets, but that is not socialism. Regulation like safe food, water and medicine requirements under the FDA have saved millions of lives. Regulations like pollution controls and worker safety standards, laws against sweatshops and child labor have improved this country. These are constraints on capitalism. Without these constraints, unbridled capitalism has many negative consequences that both liberals and conservatives don't want. I don't think anyone is ready to go back to the Cayuga river catching on fire, love canal, child labor sweatshops and so forth. So there are a few differences on a few constraints, like if coal plants need additional scrubbers, but that is far different than socialism.

Christian... strike two for right wing propaghanda. Religion is not part of government. And if it was, the conservatives have guys running for office on their 3rd wife who left his second wife while she was pregnant, or have settled a few sexual harrasement lawsuits. Great morals there guys. The fact you would use religion as a political criteria is your manipulation that the right wing is more 'Christian". Let me guess, you next point is that more people should be executed... thou shall kill criminals was a commandment I missed. Obama has not had any sex scandels, is happily married with children and yet he is attacked for religion and "being Muslim" when he is not. Seems like Obama has pretty good family values. And in fact, if his policies are good, I don't care what religion he is, including athiest.

The fact you consider "multicultural" bad in the country called the "melting pot" is kinda sad.

So that is why I said you were being manipulated, The criteria you give are either false, distortions, or irrelivent.

I am suprised you did not say liberals were weak and conservative were strong. Because the other right wing manipulation is the feeding constant fears of attack, you know Iran or North Korea are going to nuke us with an ICBM. The concept of having the largest and strongest military in the world is not enough, we need to have a military stronger than the rest of the world combined to be safe... Don't consider that Obama has done more harm to Al Qaida in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. Obama has attacked Al Qaida whereever they were while Bush pansied out and let Al Qaida have a safe haven in Pakistan. Under Bush, North Korea broke the seals on it's nuclear program, re-instated it and detonated a nuclear bomb. But somehow conservatives are stronger. Yes they want to spend more on the military industrial complex, but they are not wiser and seem to be less effective fighting real enemies.

 

Seriously? I will laugh at all the conservatives who ignored me:

 

I think the American spirit will falter because people will truly lose hope, unemployment will hit 15-20%, inflation will hit 10%, and the political discourse will become so toxic that there will be rioting and lawlessness in the streets.

The collapse of the US will probably trigger a global collapse. Maybe the EU will split up. It will be bad.