What is it with 26 - 30 year old adults these days?

I find it pathetic.

 

I believe that someone who wants to work will make it his "work" to find work, until he finds work.
I started making my own money when I was 12. I lived 20 miles from the nearest town. There were ranches nearby, and I was paid $2/hr. to pick rocks out of alfalfa fields and build horse corrals. Gas stations came soon after, and that was my "career" until I graduated HS. This was back when the attendant had to do the full service thing.
I've never made a lot of money, but I can say with assurance that I have been a MAN for my entire life.
In the Navy, I repaired 107 surface vessels and 23 submarines. When I got out and applied for work in steel fabrication, none of that meant a whole lot. The boss told me to build something, and he was not impressed until he saw that something get built.
There is NO substitute for work ethic. If a person is not raised in a manner that inspires him to develop that, it ain't gonna' happen.

 

As my dear ol' granny used to tell me, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The sow's ear being, of course, the parents. The most useless generation in the history of the world - Boomers. I know, I am one. We did nothing.

 

Examples of companies (generally speaking) I know of that offer training include trucking companies (e.g. Schneider) and IT (e.g. Level 3 Communications). I'm sure there are many others as well.

Then there is the self-made option, and this is where school can actually be pretty helpful. You could through study and hard work become expert enough in some specific, valuable area that you could go on to become a consultant/freelancer, even if you have to work some bum jobs to support yourself along the way. Of course, this also easily describes the course to getting valuable, ergo high-paid regular employment.

Simply holding a piece of paper from a college is nowhere near the same as going out into the world and learning to function as a responsible, self-supporting adult.

And I'm not telling anyone to go into the military.. I'm only pointing out that it has become a magnet for young people who want a living handed to them on a platter.

 

Bingo! I have a grandson that started working at McDonald's in high school, stayed with them, making manager. He married a brilliant little girl who started an internship at NASA almost immediately after they married. They divorced, she went to work for Exxon-Mobil as a Chem Engineer and he stayed with McDonald's eating fast food and drinking too many Cokes, loosing his teeth. He is now in the Army, serving with a Helicopter Recon unit as an air controller in Hawaii, beginning to make a little rank, He's been in a little over a year, and is planning on making a career of the Army.

Just any kid joining though won't get it. They have to have some snap. The Old Army required you to walk, breathe, and be at least semi-warm bodied, and you were good to go. ( whether you wanted to or not ) Quite a bit different now.

 

You could say it but common sense people would know you were full of it, smart play on your part

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the best year my company EVER had were 2004-2007. The worst years were the last three, go figure

 

please re-read the thread (26-30) not (12-1

 

That's cute. Because the Boomer generation demanded more social programs and less taxes than any other generation in history. Now they are demanding that their kids get screwed out of those same social programs so that they can keep their retirement home in Florida. I sincerely ask you to step away from this conversation, because I hate it when I'm forced to demonstrate the terrible degeneracy of the Boomers as a generation. It makes me feel bad because there are so many excellent Boomers out there who don't deserve to be lumped in with the nitwits they were born with.

 

Faulting all boomers for FDR is ridiculous. I think you should step away as it obvious you are probably one these kids being described.

 

I agree. Who makes massive generalizations about entire generations? It is silly and unnecessary. I'm glad we agree that this thread is an utter waste of time.

As for me... I am immensely successful. I'm in the top 10% bro. I got no worries. But thanks for your concern.

 

I didn't you did, I cited 5 kids, guess reading is not your strong suit.

 

You cited five kids? Five. Five kids. Out of a generation that consists of how many millions? What exactly were you doing with that information? How could it possibly be relevant to anything? I'll go find five incredibly successful kids who have accomplished more by 16 than you or I will in our entire lives. Would this be sufficient for you to admit this thread is nothing but old men spouting BS?

 

read the thread, it is self explantory. The fact you are asking this tells all us you could barely fog a water glass by breathing on it.

 

Haha, are you kidding me?

Your thread title is "What is with 26-30 year olds these days?"

Not "What is with the five 26-30 year olds I talked to today?"

Stop pretending you didn't make a massive generalization. Because you clearly did.

 

Yeah and my 'pet peeve' cashier handing the change to you with the bills on the bottom and change on the top in a bundle forcing you to fumble in order to keep the change from sliding off. In the 'old days' they counted-back the change. Gave you time to arrange it.

 

The generalized strawman in this thread is a big fella, that's for sure.

However, I'd still recommend co-op in school for everybody. It's just a fact nowdays: employers, for a variety of reasons, don't want to build human capital themselves, they want labour to be like a consumer good that works the way they want it to right out of the box. So you need something under your belt, otherwise, have fun at McDick's.

 

People my age don't really handle much cash, so we're not totally up to snuff with the etiquette. We just swipe a card and go.

 

I know, me too most of the time.

 

This generation has a higher IQ than any previous generation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Possible_end_of_progression

From a psychological perspective, it is interesting to see the older generations who drove the American powerhouse into the ground, attempting to blame the younger generations for any perceived failures. That has always been the case. The older generations think the younger generation is wild and stupid, while the younger generation will feel the same a few decades later. In reality millennials are smart, well educated, and ambitious. It just so happens that the older generation told them they needed to hunker down, work hard, and get a good job that pays well. They also happened to tell them they could do anything they wanted and to reach for the stars. It just so happens that achieving both those things is practically impossible for the vast majority of people, and just doing the former is complicated by all the jobs that were outsourced under the older generations and the economic collapse manufactured by the older generation!!

 

makes sense since u met them all at a job interview..

 

Quality vs. quantity. One day as a lion vs. 90 years as a lamb.

 

New businesses have to be able to sustain themselves at a loss for at least 2 years, 5 years preferred before they're even considered when you're pulling out a loan. What makes a person working at your business any different? And good ol bob got all of his experience from your business in the first place! I've literally had questions in interviews regarding if I've used a piece of equipment before...but it only exists at the company I'm applying to! They designed it for in-house use...so how exactly am I supposed to fill good ol bob's shoes in those instances? This was what I was driving at. You want someone to do something specific for you. Training is an investment that's bought on the cheap by lower wages because of experience.

But you just want to keep the same ol farts in circulation then wonder why us young folks have a bad (*)(*)(*)(*)ing attitude. Either that or you guys want to only temp hire us...for years on end so that we never really get a foot hold and then you do find your old fart to take the place of the temp kid who was working out just fine.

 

yeah at 30, lmfao

 

your sour grapes are way off base. Working while in school would give an applicant people skills along with problem solving and reasoning skills. I won't hire anyone that doesn't have those basic skills.

 

personal attacks against me already, you have already lost junior, pull up your diapers and derail some other thread.....LMFAO!