What is the difference between an Islamic vs a Christian terrorist?

Once again you are trying to move the goalposts. What part of the "The Bible" is a Christian Religious text - do you not understand ?

I have neither misquoted nor altered anything. You are the one trying to move the goalposts and cherry pick in a desperate attempt to support your claim.

Now you engaging in absurd ad hom attack and absurd fallacious gibberish because you can't refute my arguments "your opinion is worthless"

What is worthless is your inability to make a coherent arguments against Islam - despite the fact that I have given you good arguments against Islam on numerous occasions.

 

Christianity is the coming of Jesus and the New covenant.

 

I don't believe that is a difference. I think you identified similarities.

I think the important part comes down to how these ancients scripts are interpreted.

And, when there is huge duress, we humans will study our texts for justification for what we want to do.

We didn't "turn the other cheek" or consider the "golden rule" after 9/11 - we decided to slaughter large numbers of citizens of Afghanistan, a nation that had nothing to do with the attack, in the hopes of finding OBL. I'm not sure where we looked in the Bible for that, but I'll bet someone could find something to justify that act. After all, this Christian nation had NO DOUBT about what was right.

And, from there, this Christian nation found justification in pivoting to slaughter those of Iraq.

And, Billy Graham wanted us to slaughter Vietnamese.

And, we support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine - surely for reasons justified by reading the Bible.

Our religious are religious of peace, but when put to the test - we're all too often merely humans.

 

This is an excuse,
The Qur'an is jibberish, and a quick talking cleric can change a verse from a battle to a prayer to a tuna fish sandwich.
The Sunnah is written very plainly and there is not interpretation necessary,

It is not interpretation, so much as manipulation.

The sheep do not read the Sunnah, so they are at the mercy of their cleric.

 

You are striving to find evil.

I think you will be able to see yourself as successful in that quest REGARDLESS of where you look.

And, that's especially easy when you ignore all others.

 

Dude

If you don't know anything about Islam,
you are not in a position to argue or even discuss this.

 

I don't believe YOU know much of anything about Islam.

As has been said before, the real issues have to do with interpretation.

And, I do not even SLIGHTLY accept your interpretation, as it doesn't match the interpretation of Muslims I know nor the majority of Islam.

And, your search for evil can not be anything remotely positive.

 

Well why don't you bring one here some day and we can discuss it.
Islam changes with the people and clerics involved
I don/t interprete anything
I back up everything I say with book and verse.

 

Nonsense, before the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, al-Qaeda enjoyed refuge under the Taliban government, and Taliban leader Mullah Omar refused to turn over Osama bin Laden to international authorities. Turning the other cheek refers to personal insults, not government foreign policy. Jesus never told the government to do anything, He did say they are in power to maintain order. There was a need for that after 9/11.

Why would our military look to the Bible for policy? Jesus wasn't a pacifist, BTW, He commended the faith of two Roman officers, and didn't tell them to find a new occupation.

Which is it? The atheists here say we aren't a Christian nation. Is it your position that US government policy, foreign and domestic, be run according to the Bible?

 

Pot, meet kettle. Anyone who says Islam is a ROP is clueless about its true nature. I once had a Muslim on a forum admit his was an 'aggressive' religion.

 

You want to direct government to do something you believe it would be sinful for you to do?

I don't accept that. You don't get to tell government to start killing people and then just wash your hands with the comment that it was government, not you. And, that is especially true for the US.


I think your Roman officer event doesn't mean anything like what you seem to think it means. Jesus wasn't somehow required to analyse the lives of these officers. And, he rarely if ever objected to Roman rule.

We are not a Christian nation in that our government is separate from that religion and any other.

We ARE a Christian nation in terms of what the majority of individuals claim to be.

 

Making up gibberish is not an argument for much - especially your reference to "New Covenant" theology - a theology that is only a century or so old and is not accepted by the vast majority of Christianity.

What is more nonsensical is that these New Covenant wing nuts are the ones that rely on the OT the most.

Once again - since you did not get it the first time - terror is just as much a function of dogma as it is the religious text.

Once again - your arguments against Islam are poor - I have already given you good ones.

 

You are batting 100 percent wrong
I spent 20 years in Christianity, baptized, confirmed, the whole deal.
We were taught the new Testament as being Christian, the changing of the ways, just like the verses below.

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.
Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)
Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."
23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law

 

You are not in any position to argue Islam with me.
You know nothing about the religion.
I have the entire religion in print, (Qur'an and sunnah", and have read it.
whatever I can't tell you off the top of my head, I can look up.
You know nothing about the religion.


You want to discuss Islam,, lets go
You better be prepared to back up what you say.

I provide book and verse for everything I say.

 

I am not wrong. You are basing your perspective on one Church. It is not some big secret that the vast majority of Christianity does not accept New Covenant Theology... google it.

Then you go on to quote a bunch of Pauline gibberish - as if this changes the fact that the vast majority of Christianity does not reject New Covenant Theology - while completely ignoring the teachings of Jesus.

Then you go on to infer that the OT is not part of Christianity - which is patent nonsense.

You then completely ignore relating any of the above to the topic in any way. You have drifted off into la la land.

 

I don't have to know anything about Islam beyond what you have claimed .. .because I accept everything you have claimed with respect details about Islam..

This argument has nothing to do with debating Islam - because I accept all of your claims with respect the details about Islam.

Where you fall off the turnip truck is in thinking that just because some book says something - that is an argument against an individual Muslim .

More importantly - that the arguments you are using against Islam are not the same as the arguments that could be used against Christianity.

As stated to you numerous times now - the text and dogma of both religions has been used for terror. Your problem is that you continue to live in denial of the obvious.

 

Don't make up what I said.
The OT is the jewish religion of the land the NT is the coming of Jesus, and the main book for the Christians,
The OT is still used for the knowledge it contains, especially song of soloman.

But as is told over and over..The laws change.
We no longer go out and kill. now

let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
love thy enemy
Turn the other cheek.

I realize you hate Christianity so much you want to make up sh-t about it.
I'm not a Christian, and seldom stick up for the religion, but when I see people saying the wrong stuff about Christianity and Islam, I speak up.

BTW, I studied Islam far more than any other religion.

 

If you don't have a valid argument..
DON'T MAKE SH-T UP.

 

ROP??

Christianity is an aggressive religion, too.

Your indoctrination isn't at issue here.

 

True. Like any religion there are those that are far from orthodox.

 

No, the issue is the separation of the Old and New Covenant, and the reason for it.

 

I have not made up anything about Christianity - back up this claim .. and you have inferred that the OT or at least parts of it is not part of Christianity numerous times in trying decouple Christianity from OT terror. Your bringing up New Covenant theology was an attempt to decouple Christianity from the OT.

You are so desperate for an argument that you can't even own up to your own posts .. and have now degenerated into fallacious name calling and falsehood.

 

How is Christianity aggressive.
It doesn't order wars.
It doesn't order you to kill people

 

I didn't make anything up. What did I "make up". You are the one making stuff up and the one who has no valid argument.

You are now so bereft of an argument that you can no longer even address the content in my posts with something other than name calling.

 

As stated to you numerous times now - the text and dogma of both religions has been used for terror. Your problem is that you continue to live in denial of the obvious.




How has the text and dogma of Christianity used for terror.