What is the logic behind a magazine restriction?

Mine can be accomplished swiftly and effectively. Segregating violent recidivists from society will drop stats.
The gun control argument has been going on for decades and will likely continue. Even if HRC is elected, you can see by reading her website, there is nothing that will make a quick and significant difference in the stats.

 

Anger is not an affliction suffered on the part of myself. It is of no use, no relevance, and no legitimacy.

The state of "I disagree" cannot be debated with, as it has no substance, no relevance, and ultimately no meaning. It is no more legitimate a discussion than saying the word "pink" and leaving it at that.

 

Removal of known and proven violent offenders from the equation. If they cannot get back into society then they cannot reoffend, and cannot harm others through their careless disregard for the lives of others. Fewer victims to add to their lists means fewer deaths, fewer funerals, fewer families torn apart, and a reduction in the backlog of the courts.

 

I am a Buddhist. I have met a lot of Buddhist monks who have spent their life working not to be a slave to anger. Everyone feels anger. The Dalai Lama says he feels anger. The best at it say it is only a flash but it never goes away. To say you do not feel it is denial and you should be very concerned but you can change this. If not this lifetime....maybe the next

 

Because they wanted a slow arbitrary speed that is easy to remember. I highly doubt one mile an hour difference is going to matter. Now you answer my question.

 

that was my point, you have to pick something....

 

Your red herring does not answer his question.

 

Once you admit the issue is Violence and is quite independent of Guns, much will have been accomplished, Criminals have killed many People without Guns.

Or do Criminals say, shucks, I can't kill anyone today, I don't have a Gun !

 

And, 70% of violent crime does not involve a gun.

 

If the issue is violence we should find ways to make it more difficult to commit this violence. Gun control is one of those ways

 

That is so true !
Many Criminals, NYC for example, are out on Parole, and do not want to violate Parole, and use intimidation, humiliation or other methods even beatings with a shoe, or Gang raping men etc...
Guns level the field for Law Abiding Citizens.

 

Name one way to stop a Criminal from Raping women or punching people in the snout, if that Criminal never uses a Gun ?
Please tell me how.

 

Not sure, because in Escambia County, FL, 20 mph is the school zone speed limit.

 

It is more swift effective to deal with prison recidivism to stop violence. Gun control could take years to see any tangible effect on stats. Do you really believe that UBCs will have a quick and demonstrable effect on violence stats?

 

Capstun, mace, martial arts, taser....is that enough?

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Then lets do both

 

Which is pointless. The VT shooter had ten round magazines and commented the second largest shooting in America. The Orlando shooter shot a hundred people and reloaded several times with standard 30 round magazines. So why limit the rounds to begin with?

 

as pointless as picking 15 mph vs 16 mph, but they choose to pick that, why who knows

 

No, you don't.

 

You have to account for the wind for mace and some people train themselves (or on drugs) to be immune to it. It takes months of training and certain body fitness to be good at martial arts. And a taser is either a one shot and you have to reload or you have to get close to your assailant in order for it to become affective. Not only that but as with mace a person can either be on drugs or train himself to overcome a taser. ALL of these alternatives requires you to be at close range to your assailant and any self defense instructor will tell you that distance is your friend. A firearm is really the best option for self defense in just about every scenario. The only time when its not is when using a firearm would be excessive force.

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UBCs haven't been shown to reduce crime.

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Why have any limit at all when talking about magazine restrictions?

 

Both incidents, for any honest and rational person, cast doubts over the standard ' the more times he has to reload, the more of a chance he can be stopped" argument from the left.
Is there any instance where a mass shooting was stopped by people charging the shooter during a mag change?
Not a malfunction or stoppage, but a mag change?
No?
So much for that.

 

A gun requires training too. It can easily be taken away from people that do not know how to use it and this scenario immediately just became deadly

 

I was hoping to get an answer to the second part of my post...

Do you really believe that UBCs will have a quick and demonstrable effect on violence stats?

 

Yes I believe they have an impact on gun violence. If they have no impact .....why do them at all?

 

Have they done anything in the states that have required them? Please show your evidence that they worked. California, for example, has had UBC for a while. Show me the data that shows that violent crime dropped more there than in the U.S. as a whole, or states that don't have UBCs.

 

Because they make firearm ownership more onerous.