What is the solution to mass shootings in America?

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What is the solution to mass shootings in America?

  1. More guns - Arming teachers and guards

    18.4%
  2. Tighter gun laws

    12.2%
  3. Better Mental Screening requirements

    26.5%
  4. Better economic opportunities

    14.3%
  5. Enforced school Prayer

    2.0%
  6. There is no political solution

    40.8%
  7. Private citizens should have access to all of the same hardware as the military.

    6.1%
  8. Other ( please explain below )

    30.6%
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  1. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing wrong with that. But the only way to realistically achieve that goal is to incarcerate them. Do we want to go there?
     
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  2. not2serious

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    The slippery slope here is "who" is mentally unstable and where is that line and who decides. We also have parents who KNOW they children are unstable, and yet the mother or father supplied their weapons is also an issue (like at Sandy Hook). And the mass shooters are in much smaller numbers than lightning strikes, but they get the big news front page. It is sad that the exception is making the rules.
    You can get to the slippery slope like Mexico. They have a 2nd amendment, but in reality, it has been removed from the populace. You fully understand that there are plenty of people in our government and power who don't want us to have a gun at all, and they are actively working toward it to neuter it.
    I would rather put up with the occasional madman, that accept the alternative. The keep finding ways to exempt people from having gun already, and what you seem to think that we have to throw the baby out with the bath water.
    And if you take the guns away, they are now using vehicles to do the mass killings. It is a minuscule amount of madmen taking all our rights. I would rather put up with the occasional mad man then have 300 million peoples rights stripped from us by a thousand paper cuts of a total less than 15 people a year going off the nut...
     
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  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reopen mental institutions.
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Canadian solution is more vans.
     
  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no problem with that. I just don't like the hypocrites who say "Life is sacred" on one hand and "Screw the Mexicans" on the other.
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They might live, they might die. Who cares? Who gives two shits about them? Certainly not the Pro-Lifers. LOL
     
  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disagreed, but you are fooling yourself if you believe that they are in no danger. OTOH, I agree with you. Scew them. Life's tough. Some people live, some people die. It happens all over the world every day and all through recorded history. Just don't ever bullshit me by saying "Life is sacred".
     
  8. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

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    As I have said before there is no one real solution to the problem and removing guns is definitely not it. We need to examine just what it is that makes a person want to kill others and work on that. Maybe it is the liberal ideal we live under in our politically correct world. Maybe it is the fact that God is being removed from society. What ever it is it is not the guns, which haven't changed much in the last few decades, that is causing the increase in mass killings. It is the minds of the people who are doing the killings that have changed. What is the difference between now and 50 years ago, there were not as many mass killings then as there are now so we need to see what has changed.
     
  9. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Human nature is violent. Kids must be trained to play well with others. A two year old will stick a toothpick through the eye of another child over a toy if not monitored and socialized. Some people don't socialize well.

    Also, human nature varies. Some people are content to live the lives of sheep. Some are not so content and they find a sheeplike existence to be stifling. IF we ever colonize Mars, the ships won't be loaded with sheeplike people. They'll be the ones left behind just like our ancestors left behind families in Europe and Asia to come to America.

    OTOH, some people are mentally ill. Some illnesses can be cured, but most cannot. At best, they can only be controlled.
     
  10. jgoins

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    We wouldn't have to shoot them, they just have to believe we will shoot them if they cross the border. If we shoot them before they cross the border then that could be seen as an act of war by Mexico when we kill them on Mexican soil. If we were to go to actual war with Mexico we will have a difficult time of it within our own borders because the illegals here have already armed themselves and will fight for Mexico. I don't doubt we would win but it will be hard fought and after we win we will have a president by then that would rebuild Mexico and give it back to them.
     
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    All of that should be worked on instead of taking the easy way out by removing guns from law abiding people.
     
  12. jgoins

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    Life is sacred until that life endangers the lives of others. What we need to decide is what constitutes endangering the lives of others.
     
  13. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I completely agree. The anti-gun Left thinks banning guns will cure depression thereby preventing over 40,000 suicides each year (about half are with guns) and both gang and domestic violence, the primary instances of murders. Banning guns certainly wouldn't stop people like Alek Minassian from driving a rented van through crowds of innocent pedestrians.
     
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    I certainly don't care about them, they lived long enough to get to our borders the can continue to live on the south side of it.
     
  15. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You think kids are endangering others? Then why not kill them? The bottom line is that Life isn't sacred. It's important, but there are costs and security to be concerned about. Sometimes it's just better to let kids die....and their parents too. Of course it's easier to turn a blind eye and let them die rather than put a gun to their head and pull the trigger. Some people are just ******* that way.
     
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    No problem. Just don't try to bullshit me with "life is sacred" because you and I know it isn't.
     
  17. jgoins

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    That is where we as a people must decide what will be the definition of endangering ones life will be.
     
  18. jgoins

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    Nobody is ************ you, your life is sacred as my life is sacred and we get no respawns in life no do overs or continues. You don't try to sacrifice my life and I don't try to sacrifice your life thereby life is sacred.
     
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    It's pretty obvious; "endanger" means anything or anyone who might cause you to be less rich.
     
  20. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bullshit. You've just proved it several times. What we do have are rights so people, including the US government, can't take our lives except in specific circumstances.
     
  21. gamewell45

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    Modification of the 2nd amendment to allow ownership of shotguns, single bolt action rifles and musketry. All other weapons banned including handguns.
     
  22. Max Rockatansky

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    You forgot rental vans.
     
  23. BillRM

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    If we call the shots instead of the gun nuts there would be all manners of sane restrictions on guns ownership beginning with large magazines and rifles that had little to no used but for the mass killings of other humans oh and we would not allow firearms to be sold to teenagers before they can legally buy beer.
     
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  24. Max Rockatansky

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    We? You mean the anti-gunners? The gun-grabbers?
     
  25. TOG 6

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    Nothing.
    The issue comes in placing limits on the rights of the law abiding in an attempt to do so, especially when those limits do noting to serve that purpose.
     

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