What kind of Welfare system is ideal for the United States?

I support the idea of minimizing government and maximizing the private sector. But I'm also a realist who knows many Americans are without affordable transportation, without acceptable housing, without health care, and all of these are essential to the health and growth of the nation. I would rather provide a 200 square foot studio apartment to someone, with public transportation, and a form of universal health care, than deal with stupid under-funded and politically charged welfare programs. I also know Americans are self-serving and refuse to consider funding via taxation and without money we can barely maintain the dismal status quo. BUT, what excuse do we have for refusing to create a world-class public education system in the USA...I'd point to self-serving greed and this won't change for a few more centuries...

 

So in other words...no.

You went from wanting public transportation to very specific proposals about removing fossil fuel and hydrogen busses (?). I'm guessing you don't have a car then.

 

Disability should pay our disabled enough to thrive on, not suffer on. Now with that said....

For all of the others, excluding those who are drawing their social security and are retired, we should do away with welfare completely and turn it into a Public Works program, that pays enough to those enrolled so that they might thrive, at least on a lower middle class level. You would not earn enough to have cable tv, or the luxury items of the middle middle or upper middle class, but just the basics for what it takes to thrive in the modern US.

Therefore, you would have not one sitting at home, on their asses, screwing to make kids all day, but at work, doing something to help out this nation. It might be sweeping floors of public buildings, picking up trash along roads, emptying garbage, painting murals in gov't buildings the way we did during the great depression to employ artists, and so on. The main purpose is that it keeps people busy, remembering how to work, creating work habits that many people never developed due to the old welfare system. It would get rid of poverty, while reducing crime and the costs of law enforcement, prisons, and so on.

But this requires that the right side boys drop some of their silly ideological beliefs, as well as the left side boys doing the same. It would take intelligence, and a desire to make things better for americans in order to pull it off. It would take saying no to powerful lobby people, who would not want to see it happen, for it would hurt their own profits. But unless we do this, we will continue to pay anyways, but instead of paying the poor to work, we pay private prisons, a greater sized police force, and so on.

What we need are honest, non corrupt human beings in DC, and to get that we have got to make them give us electoral reform, thereby getting rid of the two party tyranny, and the legal bribery that goes on in DC. We need intelligent men who will use that intelligence to solve a problem that should have been solved long ago, when it comes to the poor and crime.

 

I know how to fix American schools relatively easy without spending a bunch extra in money OMOF.

But there are massive obstacles by all sorts of interests

For example, we need to lengthen the school year and do away with the 3 month long summer vacation. And get rid of the "out of school between 3 and 3:30".

Those things are relics of the age when students had to get out of school to help on the farm. They have no relevance today.

But students certainly don't want to spend more time in school. Parents don't want it. The vacation industry doesn't. And so forth.

 

Not sure what your point is; Government is Force.

 

We have plenty of cars, too many cars, and a tractor...I continue to desire affordable public transportation which will serve those without personal vehicles and those who see no need to drive their cars. Removing fossil fuels should always be part of every transportation solution. In rural areas the roads and congestion are tolerable for personal vehicles, however, in all urban areas roads are gridlocked and too much pollution and it is impossible to widen roads to 20 lanes or even acquire the land so it is mandatory to replace personal vehicles with public transportation...the sooner the better. In CA the idiots are spending $100 billion on a bullet train between SF and LA which is 100% political BS...spend that same money on public transit and all of CA could have public transportation...

 

I have always advocated school hours M-F 8am to 5PM, no homework, ALL teaching, studying and learning is accomplished during the school day. But it can't be done without more funding because we need better school facilities and better teachers/administrators...

 

Since some on the left may believe supply side economics should be lowering our tax burden by supplying us with better governance at lower cost, any investment in the general welfare (and therefore the general prosperity) shall provide a positive multiplier effect on our economy in order to acquire and posses that end, for the People, via that delegation of that social power to "raise money for the general welfare".

A true social safety net should Only end when it is no longer needed or it merely sacrifices the end to the means of, merely, shell games with Statism.

Since only the right believes capitalism to be useless (as in the case of mutually beneficial Trade with Cuba), I believe the left should try to maximize the Use of capitalism for all of its worth not only for fun and practice, but also for the market based metrics involved via public policy which constitutes public Use simply because we have a Commerce Clause.

Thus, socialism should merely Use capitalism for its "just compensation worth" via eminent domain and solve for a natural rate of unemployment and that simple form of poverty, on an at-will basis to ensure that form of Individual Liberty even under our form of Capitalism, through recourse to existing legal and physical infrastructure in our republic.

 

Government is the legal use of force.
Politics are public relationships.
My politics are not governed by the use of force.
That's what makes us different.

 

The right the left, the left the right. It's not about who's best intentions are being imposed by force. It's that anyone's best intentions are being imposed by force, even force of law.

I am taken aback by such a benevolent arrogance that leaves one to believe that their intentions for others are so superior to other people's best intentions for themselves that those intentions should be imposed upon them by force.

Just who do you think you are?

 

The ONLY legitimate welfare system will have to come from the Private Sector. Private charities. Anything else is just far left Democrat politicians buying votes from idiots.

 

I agree; however, the right doles out just as much in corporate welfare.

Charity has a voluntary nature. Tax and transfer is legal theft.

All good intentions have net evil effects when done by force between equals.

 

What corporate welfare? If you're referring to the TRILLIONS paid to green companies like Solyndra, that came from the left. Ditto the stimulus funds given to rich union bosses as a payoff for election support.

 

The shear volume of what both the left and the right want to impose upon others by force of law makes them indistinguishably more alike than the exact details of exactly what they want to impose makes them different.

The vast majority of those in US jails and prisons are there because those on the right are so sure that their intentions for others are so superior to other people's best intentions for themselves that they have their best intentions for others imposed upon them by force of law.

Both Democrats and Republicans are possessed of the same benevolent arrogance and the same desire to impose their best intentions for others upon them by force of law. Neither sees the imposition of their best intentions upon others as a usurpation of other people's best intentions for themselves; they both see it as an alternative to chaos.

I define liberty as authority over and responsibility for self; Republicans and Democrats see the same as chaos.

 

Why not just honest and say those in US jails BROKE THE LAW and were convicted by juries of their peers?

And AGAIN what does this have to do with the subject of the thread?

 

It is mostly your lack of a clue and a Cause.

Does it matter what your "politics" are if Government is Force and that form of Socialism as distinct from Capitalism?

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Someone who knows there is no Appeal to Ignorance of the (intent and purpose) of the law.