What life is like for Paul Manafort in jail

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  1. Stonewall Jackson

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    But, if they both meet up in jail they both must be there for a reason.
     
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    Exactly on what day did Russia become a hostile government ?

    Pretty sure Ronald Reagan won the Cold War.

    My current passport doesn't restrict me from traveling to Russia today but my old Cold War passport forbiddened me from traveling to North Vietnam, North Korea, Cuba and the USSR.

    No one has ever answered the question why Bill Clinton was never prosecuted for illegally traveling to Moscow in 1968 to be indoctrinated by the Kremlin on how to become an "useful idiot" of the Kremlin and organize anti Vietnam war demonstrations in Europe and America. Maybe the Clinton's are above the law ?

    Obvious Russia wan't a hostile government back in 2012 when President Obama got caught on a hot mic in collusion with the President of Russia.



    Did Russia become a hostile government when the Obama administration got caught meddling in the Ukraine's Presidential elections or when Hillary Clinton got caught meddling in Russia's internal affairs and elections ?

    Or did Russia become a hostile government on the night of November 8, 2016 when crooked Hillary lost ?
     
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    It's why we need prison reform.
     
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    On what day did Russia cease being a hostile foreign government. When the KGB first financed Trump? Or was it when the KGB rebranded itself as the FSB and GRU and continue to buy Trump?
     
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    I agree !
     
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    Sure, keep telling yourself this.
     
  8. Phantomknight09

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    Thank you! That post was so stupid I didn't even get to argue this point either because I would've had to type to much. Russia is an adversary no doubt about it. But I'm pretty sure "hostile foreign government" is an official designation. Russia isn't an actually enemy. We aren't at war with Russia. So this fantasy that any interaction with a Russian or any paperwork that wasn't filled out concerning a Russian is the work of spy craft or espionage is ridiculous. It's also selectively applied.

    Claire mccaskil lied on social media about meeting the Russian ambassador in his home. Yet that wasn't deemed suspicious at all. Just a politician forgetting a small detail. Ofcourse she was a democrat ( I'm an independent) so she had the backing of most of the MSM and social media. Then you have the infamous Barack Obama video. It's clear that Russia switches from hostile foreign enemy to just another competitor nation based on who is talking to a Russian.
     
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    That's an easy one

    Russia once again officially became a hostile government to the US on January 6, 2017, when the Russian meddling was officially confirmed by the ODNI....

    SNIP
    A January 2017 assessment by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) stated that Russian leadership favored presidential candidate Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, and that Russian president Vladimir Putin personally ordered an "influence campaign" to harm Clinton's electoral chances and "undermine public faith in the US democratic process."
    ENDSNIP

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

    Someday, that may be remembered as another 'date that will live in infamy'.
     
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    What do you mean disgraced? What ethics violation can you prove? Tom was proven innocent by a court of law.

    So yes, since other media do not report good things, I need media that does.
     
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    Who designated them as a hostile foreign government? Is that ODNIs opinion or yours?
     
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    Russian thugs don't buy people, they are in the business of making money unless they are in the market for uranium.

    Crooked Hillary and the DNC paid the Russians millions of dollars for a fake dossier.

    Hillary and the DNC got ripped off again.
     
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    Do RU thugs sell people?
     
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    You're awfully friendly with our enemies spreading their fake news.
     
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    Things that make you go hummmmm ;).
     
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    Lol you see this? Depending on whose talking to the Russian , the same statement can be either diplomacy or treason. It's just so happens that individuals on the FBI share such an outlook. Which explains the discrepancy in invesgations into Hillary and trump. Sickening. Lol this poster doesn't even want to know what exactly Obama is referencing to.
     
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    It's treason if the interactions were to influence the outcome of an election, Obama was not asking Russian to help him win an election (diplomacy). Context is required to think critically.
     
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    Proof that trump or his campaigns "interactions were to influence the outcome of an election" and how exactly can you say with any certainty what Obama was talking about?
     
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    You mean the President talking to a diplomat, ( which is his job) as opposed to a New York real estate developer being bought by Russian money or someone like Manafort who worked directly for Russian Intelligence.
     
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    Here's hoping that sooner rather than later, you find your rights respected exactly as much you respect the rights of others.
     
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    Any proof of trump being bought by Russian money? Has he ever been indicted for anything related to the claim(or anything at all lol)? Which one of manaforts indictments support your claim he worked directly for Russian intelligence? Isn't that treason or espionage? Did he get indicted for any of those? Or anything related to your any of your assertions?
     
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    The incident of Obama colluding with Russia's President Dimitri Medvedev took place in Seoul, Korea in 2012 and the microphones weren't Russian.

    The real story is, was the 2012 Presidential elections Rigged ?

     
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    Manafort is now essentially a slave who must do exactly everything as ordered exactly as he is told to do. Maybe, some day, they'll even be a trial to determine if there was any basis whatsoever to imprison and enslave him.
     

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