What makes a false prophet?

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  1. Kode

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    You seem to have trouble owning your errors.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was confused at what you were saying because it made no sense but that is exactly what happened, it's right up there where you can check it.
     
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    Keep running!! LOL!!
     
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    Which religious leaders said this? Or are you just assuming some did?
    There are those who attempt to read the OT and NT within prophecy and correlate things going on in the world and make statements they believe are true. They have to believe or assume Trump is one of the prophetic characters in a particular prophecy or Revelation. There is no way to prove either way until after the events are completed and recognized.
     
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    Where do you get the idea that Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit? Jesus Christ is the Son of Man. The Holy Ghost is the Holy Spirit. Spirit and Ghost are interchangeable. Take John 14:17, Jesus Christ was visible to the world and people have the free moral agency to accept and know him or reject him and knoweth not. And, that is a sin but is forgivable as one can possibly accept him later on. As did Matthew. But, the Holy Ghost cannot be blasphemed against. Why not? What is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost? It's when the Holy Ghost bears physical and spiritual witness of the Father and the Son through a revelation. Or, even at the judgement day when someone sees the Father and Son and still rejects them even thought the Holy Ghost identifies their Glory. If you have a personal revelation and see beyond the veil the heavens and the Lord Godhead and you reject what you see, that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
     
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    People who claim to speak for God aren't real Christians? Does that include Jesus Christ?
     
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    Prophets are messengers that bring the word of the Lord to the world. The Lord God only speaks to Prophets to give out the messages that are for the entire world and sometimes a specific group of people such as Israel or Judah. They aren't speaking for God like the Pope. They actually hear or see the Lord and give to the world Gospel truth.
     
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    I certainly wouldn't call them Prophets. Possibly teachers or evangelists. But not Apostles or Prophets. Now, Satan could have planted in their minds falsehoods to spread.
     
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    Far too many to post here Go to youTube and type in "god says Trump win" You'll see the usuals, Copeland, Robertson, and a long list of others who claim direct knowledge from God, and many of them are quite disturbing. Copeland and White are exceptionally entertaining. There is no shortage of religious people claiming divine knowledge that Trump would win.
     
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    Why? What makes one Christian? And, what makes one a Prophet of God?
     
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    Well, let's assume Biden did actually win? I would say so far Biden was handed the Presidency by cheating Democrats in several states. Will something else happen to overturn the banana republic behavior of the Democrat Party? Maybe. Again, as I said, we have to wait until all events are ended. I do agree with you that these so called men of God did not receive any revelation about this election. I am actually comfortable with the outcome so far because the outcome is based on actual revelation and prophecy of our time of wickedness. Our country is a land of mild and honey like Israel was for the ancient Israelites as long as they were worthy of the land. Our country has become a cesspool of wickedness in many ways that we are ripe with iniquity losing our liberties, freedoms and justice for all. I'm just going on what the prophecies say about our time period, the Last Days.
     
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    I understand. Last day prophesies are a favorite of the conspiracy theory crowd. Lots of intrigue and nefarious plans. Perhaps some day you will come up with some evidence that some of that is happening, I won't address your remark about cheating in the election. I'll leave you to come to terms with our new president in your own way.
     
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    I would refer you to the Bible if you are wondering what a Christian is.
     
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    I suppose, I am not familiar with Satan's powers.
     
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    Can Jesus be a follower of Himself?

    I don't know.
     
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    Excellent, provide the name of a prophet who made specific predictions that came true, and I will debunk it for you.
     
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    One of the criterion back then were making predictions that didn't come true.

    The prophets would typically make a big fuss and draw large crowds of people, or appear in front of the royal court, saying that God gave them a message.

    One of the ways to tell whether a prophet was real or not was by whether their predictions foretelling an unlikely future event would come true.
     
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    That's much like today, only now they appear on their TV shows and in there megachurches that reach thousands more than was ever possible in Bible times. Their followers don't seem to mind if they are wrong though.
     
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    haha, trying to duck out of supporting your false claims with an onus probandi fallacy eh
    the only possible out you have to make your claim correct is if you can prove your claim there is no requirement what so ever for me to prove the opposite. try that nonsense in court and they will mop the floor with you. lol

    onus probandi fallacy
    Making a claim that needs justification, then demanding that the opponent justifies the opposite of the claim.
     
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    Not at all I was looking forward to you showing a picture of your favourite prophet Adolf Hitler and then we could of gone through his predictions and discuss how the 1000 year Reich was going?
    How do you fancy me using Charles Manson as a false prophet and explaining the mental problems he had which caused him to think of himself as a later day Jesus, then you can prove me wrong and show he was actually communicating with god!
     
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    still dodging eh
    why dont you simply apply that to your own false claims made a couple posts ago
     
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    No I am showing the absurdity of your world view, you cannot claim that Manson was not Christ. In my world view I can show he was a psychotic misogynist who did not hear the voice of a god. He is probably the most well studied Prophet of God we have ever had. Modern science understands and treats people who hear voices in their head, read about it here.
    https://www.rethink.org/advice-and-...ess/learn-more-about-symptoms/hearing-voices/
     
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    Did Hitler and Manson claim Divine knowledge from God?
     
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    Manson certainly did, Adolf was just me snickering at a Holocaust denier(sometimes I cannot resist it).
     
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    I'm aware that Manson's followers attributed God like authority to him, but I'm not aware of any specific prophesies he made. He didn't keep the societal concessions he enjoyed based on his claimed connection with God, like our current batch of false prophets.
     

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