What Makes Government So Special?

Technically it does not matter. Whoever has the power has the ability to enforce any laws they want. If they want to kill your first born child, they can unless you can hide it or stop them. If they want to consider black people 3/5ths of a person they can because they can enforce it. But there is a huge difference between this evil and the evil you are implying that is happening right now. If the individuals we were voting in advocated these things, the majority would most likely not vote them in. Just like the majority think Libertarian's ideas would be disastrous to society and the economy... they simply don't vote them in. If the majority voted them in, then we would have some major problems.

 

There's laws all over the world that allow some crazy (*)(*)(*)(*). They can still stone woman in some middle east countries. But you are taking things to the extreme. If we had laws allowing people to act like Hitler or laws that allowed torture of woman by throwing rocks at them, then I can see what you are saying. I still have yet to hear a legitimate argument that America is on that path. It seems more that you guys are creating these logical fallacies to give the appearance that there is no control in America and the Government can do whatever they want.

 

I'm simply demonstrating the logic that you have laid out. You have said that the government is justified in enforcing the law. I showed you how this logic is fallacious. Where is the line drawn? How far can the government go before it becomes illegitimate? I've already shown how the majority cannot draw this line, and you seem to agree. So how far is too far?

P.S. The US government is murdering countless innocent people overseas. The US government is no better than the governments you brought up.

 

Yes, we vote in the government. We have control over who is selected to become members of government. But that does not make us a part of government. I cannot tax. I cannot exercise any of the powers granted to the government in the Constitution. Therefore I am simply not a part of the government, nor are you. Electing the government is not the same as being the government, just as selecting the next CEO of a company does not make you the CEO.

War makes us function more efficiently? I am not implying that I know how the government should be ran more than you. I am implying that government is far less of an organizing force than you make it to be.

But that's just it...the government does not abide by the same rules. They are allowed to commit crimes without prosecution. Look at police brutality. Theft. War. Conscription. Counterfeiting. The government does all of these things without punishment under the guise of authority "from the people."

 

Nobody is claiming to be the know-it-all of justice. What I am arguing is that not all laws are just. Surely you can agree with this.

 

I never said they are justified. I said they are allowed. And I don't buy this US Govt is murdering people overseas. We are engaged in a war out there and casualties happen. We were attacked on our soil and we are protecting ourselves. That's how reality works. If you call us murderers than move out of the country and go to Canada or something.

 

Of course

 

Yeah, by their own rules...

The US government is invading random countries to "spread democracy." They're firing drone strikes on civilians. That's murder.

1.) A very, very, small percentage of the military is going after Al-Qaeda
2.) The US wouldn't be attacked if the US government had not been invading those countries murdering thousands of people for ten years!

Right.. because if I (singular) move to Canada, the US government will stop murdering people (wtf?)

 

Yeah, by their own rules...

The US government is invading random countries to "spread democracy." They're firing drone strikes on civilians. That's murder.

1.) A very, very, small percentage of the military is going after Al-Qaeda
2.) The US would not have been attacked if the US government had not been invading those countries murdering thousands of people for all the years prior!

Right.. because if I (singular) move to Canada, the US government will stop murdering people (wtf?)

 

Government has such power because a democracy allows groups of people to take away the liberty of a minority of people to fill their needs. For example taking from the minority of wealthy business men to give welfare to the many who are poor.

Another example is sending men out to war with muslims so that we can continue to receive money from oil to pay for our citizens needs

The majority gives government its privilege or makes it 'special'

 

Simply put, the state is the biggest, strongest gang in any particular territory. It has special privileges because it has conquered (or can conquer) any upstart in its territory that doesn't submit to its will.

They certainly don't have the right to do so, but they certainly have the ability. Similarly, the state does many things that violate the rights of others. There is no ethical justification for these acts; the victims simply don't have the ability to defend their rights. As Rothbard has pointed out, the state is nothing more than a gang of thieves writ large.

 

^ But it was Republicans on Wall Street who financed Hitler as I have shown previously.