What We (Muslims) believe about Jesus

Often people ask me what Muslims believe about the crucifixion of Jesus and whether he was the son of God.

Muslims do not believe that Jesus was crucified nor was he the son of God. In fact we consider it a sin/blasphemy to believe that Jesus was the son of God (Trinity).

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And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of God," -- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]: But God raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And God is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of God and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them. S. 4:157-159 Hilali-Khan

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Christians need to understand that God never had a son and to think otherwise is blasphemy.

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"God is only one God! Far be it from his glory that he should have a son!" Sura 4, ver. 169

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So do you want to kill all Christians? Do you approve of the events of 9/11/01 and 9/11/12? Do you feel Jesus was demon-possessed when he said to turn the other cheek? Would you kill Jesus if you met him today?

 

[Quran 9:12] If they violate their oaths after pledging to keep their covenants, and attack your religion, you may fight the leaders of paganism—you are no longer bound by your covenant with them—that they may refrain.

[Quran 9:13] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place? Are you afraid of them? GOD is the One you are supposed to fear, if you are believers.

[Quran 9:14] You shall fight them, for GOD will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the believers.

[Quran 9:15] He will also remove the rage from the believers' hearts. GOD redeems whomever He wills. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

 

It pleases me to know that new mosques are being built throughout the United States. Even one near ground zero (Mashallah). We are right in your own backyard. Protected by the glorious Constituition of the United States. In Allah We Trust.

 

Since all gods are imaginary people can make them do whatever they want them to do and be whatever they want them to be. If Christians want Jesus to be the son of God then he is. If muslims don't want him to be the son of God then he isn't. It doesn't matter because it's all a fairy tale anyway. It's not like he's going to show up to set the record straight.

How would muslims cope if Jesus showed up with God and God said that Jesus was his son? They'll probably wig out and want to kill Jesus and God.

Likewise, if God and Jesus showed up and God said that Jesus wasn't his son the Christians would probably crucify Jesus once more.

And if they did show up it would really tick off all of the other people who follow different religions and the atheists.

But no one has anything to worry about. All gods are imaginary. So everyone can continue to have fun by trying to convince doubters that their imaginary deity is the real deal.

 

That makes it easier to locate people and throw them into concentration camps.

 

That is slightly better than the stuff in the Old Testament but it's still so 7th Century.

 

So your book says Jesus was replaced by another person they thought was him?

That explains how he could appear afterward and be recognized by his apostles?

 

They said all I had to do was to stand in as a body double for a few minutes while he went to freshen up. The next thing I knew the Romans were beating the heck out of me and forcing me to cross this heavy cross across town. Then they knocked me to the ground and nailed me to the cross. I'm telling you, never take a body double job!

 

That is the way we roll in America.

We have freedom of Speech so we can influence each other in a civilized fashion which leads ultimately to opeople getting all the facts on the table.
Then, people can gradually discover what is true and what is false.

We believe that Truth is Lord and his Father is the Reality that exists for us all.

Our New Testament claimed that Christ was the epitome of Truth.
Christ was the Idea ofl Truth, which he personified by his presence.

Of course Truth is a spirit, not a material thing.
This is hy the Bible called that spirit the son-of-God, though the physical material being of Jesus was always called the son-of-a-man, as muslims so understand.
Jesus was a man.

But christ is a concept, something that men can accept mentally.
The idea of Christ is a state of mind.
The point of the New Testament is that you and I can accept Truth as the foundation for our State of mind.

Now whether you believe in Allah is immaterial in regard to the realization that Truth is the salvation for man because truth is the image in our mind of what actually is real and does exist in the world.

Can you deny this, that Truth is really our God, whether a book misleads you one way or the other?
If man does not recognize and live in Reality he is insane by definition for living in fantasy.

 

What is Truth?

 

Jesus - son of god - was a criminal who was executed. This point of view is not compatible with any other religion on this planet (including atheism (on reasons of freedom and politics - not on reasons of spiritual belief)). So I don't expect from anyone that he understands this - although I'm sure everyone who takes his time knows deeply in his heart - if he is an experienced person - that there must be something true on this story, because that's exactly what the people are doing with god: they are crucifying him - with every sin. ... Whatever: This is not really a problem. If someone likes to go on this intellectual way then he will arrive one day like one of the wise magi or an ox or donkey in the own starred shed where the holy family - better to say: the whole universe and all heavens - have take care for the little child in the manger.

http://youtu.be/Hz-QCvB4m1U

 

Pontius - nice to meet you - thought you are dead.

http://youtu.be/DzdDf9hKfJw

 

I certainly understand why you don't believe Jesus to be the son of God, but Christians do.. So if we respect your faith, why not respect ours.

 

Strange. Such sentences are increasing my respect for the Islam in the same way like Muslims who are stealing shields in Karthoum (Sudan) where's written on "Bundesrepublik Deutschland - Botschaft" without being able to understand what they are doing on what reasons.

http://youtu.be/BeyFG9uQi8E

 

That's really hilarious considering that muslims believe in the devil, demons, angels, spirits, and 90 feet tall people. Now if you can believe in all of those creatures why do you draw the line at believing that God had kids? Heck, all of those creatures could be his kids. When you see one of them ask for its birth certificate.

 

Nice to play to be a Muslim, isn't it? Who are you: an american form of a Nazi? Something's wrong. ¿What are you saying, doing on what reason?

http://youtu.be/uv_2x6JmuaE

 

In Sura 4 - I'm using a german version - is written something what's ununderstandable or me on Position 169. The arab text is:

4 - 168:


4 - 169:


The english text is understandable - there's written:

4-168+169:
Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit wrong [or injustice] - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a path.
Except the path of Hell; they will abide therein forever. And that, for Allah , is [always] easy.

In 4 - 171 is written something against the belief in the triune god:

O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

Source for the english text: http://quran.com/4

http://youtu.be/iaoSiklAXiU

 

Why should people believe that? Just because some committee wrote it in a book?

 

Such questions are completly superflous, because you like to say that someone should believe in your words but not in words of other people. You would think if someone agrees with your words that you are right. But also two peope are able to be wrong. Billions are able to be wrong. You are for example wrong with your [not spoken but thought] sentence "There is no truth". Pontius Pilate asked really "What's truth?" and he was perhaps frustrated because he did not know - but you are "sure" truth is not existing - what's your truth now. You are a paradox thinker - not others. And why did I say "sure" in quotation marks? You are yourselve - as everyone else - the words you are believing in.

http://youtu.be/c4UoqQFYzWQ

 

I heard he was going to do da nasty with Miley so he could give birth to himself again.

 

No way for me to translate this sentence. What do you like to say?

http://youtu.be/OLSs7iH4l4k

 

Where are you from?

 

Salam wa'alykum.

That is the wrong ayah. It is Surah 4, verse 171...

O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.