What'll the GOP do about their TP Problem Now?

You can't be so deluded as to think black voters are going to abandon Obama now. Or democrats for that matter. If you were to draw a Veen diagram between blacks and the democrat party, assuming you know what a Veen diagram is, it'd be a nearly perfect circle.

And we all know why.

Though conservatives may turn a blind eye towards the racist elements in their party, arguing the democrats racial history, like this somehow negates the racist elements in their party , there's no disputing the math.

Democrats are more diversified, open to change, popular culture and hip-hop and fun to be around with.

Conservatives are more get off my lawn, pull up your pants, Lawrence Welk and you'd want to put a gun in your mouth if you had to stand ten more minutes of their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) at a Conservapac convention.

 

so you cannot dispute the number so you attack the source eh Natty? Which of the numbers in that chart were distorted ? Here are the 2012 election results from the Roper Center which is paret of the University of Conneticutt. Same numbers

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_12.html

Democratic party does not even come close to mirroring the population of the United states so in my opinion it's views are irrelevant

 

that article was originally printed in January 2013 just after the 2012 election

2 years later

One of Mitt Romney’s great failures in 2012 was that he won only 29 percent of Latino voters and a pathetic 27 percent among Asian voters — considerably down from the support George W. Bush had won from these groups in 2000 and 2004. This year, the GOP’s share of votes from these Americans improved. In the national exit poll for local House races, Democrats won 64 percent of Latino voters and also won Asian voters — but only with 52 percent. Among African Americans, Republican support ticked up slightly from Romney’s 6 percent of the vote to 10 percent. Native Americans, who make up 1 percent of the national electorate, favored Republicans by 52 to 43 percent.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/392266/more-non-white-voters-gop-john-fund

what the Dems are missing is that non white voter want the same thing white voters want. A good job and a future outside the welfare rolls for their children and the Democratic party just has not delivered

 

No, I identify the source as being calculated to appease right wingers.

Savvy Republicans understand that an aging, nine-tenths White political party, as an existential imperative, must better reflect a younger, far more diverse electorate.

To deny such an obvious reality is political suicide:


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the University of Connecticut put those numbers out to appease right wingers ? you cannot be serious....the numbers are from the 2012 exit polls.

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_12.html look at the numbers, they are exactly the same as what is in this graph

 

I wouldn't hang my partys racial diversity bona-fides on a mid-term election where only 37% of the electorate even bothered to vote. I doubt John Fund factored in that variable in arguing the increase in black turnout for conservatives. I'd argue presidential election years are far more representative of the electorates mindset than off year mid-term elections. More so when the mid-term election is in a presidents second term. The off year election victories of democrats in Clinton second term being the anomaly.

 

You don't want to get it. Those numbers do not impact the reality that the aging GOP is 90% White in an increasingly diverse nation, and not attracting younger, more diverse Americans.

As the conservative Washington Times notes in regard to Ron Paul's courting Black and Hispanic Americans,

With the overwhelmingly-White GOP's base continually shrinking as a percentage of the electorate, and its increasing difficulty in attracting the votes of Americans who are not White (Mitt Romney won just 17 percent of nonwhite voters in the 2012 election. That includes African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans and all other groups that fall under the umbrella of “nonwhite”) many savvy Republicans do grasp the existential implications for which denial is not a solution:

 

Look, even if that were true, which it is not, how long do you think it will be that way? You don't own blacks. Slavery is over. They can vote for whatever party they want to, and from the looks of it, the democrat party is doing them no favors. They will leave and vote republican. It's just a matter of time.

Blacks voted 10% up from 6% in 2012 and 9% in 2010. Hispanics voted 35% for the GOP and Asians 50%.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2014-midterms/exit-polls/
http://graphics.wsj.com/exit-polls-2014/

 

I wouldn't be hanging my 2016 presidential prospects on exit polls in a mid-term election where only 37% of the electorate bothered to vote. But that's just me.

If you want to extrapolate future voting trends from an election that had the lowest turnout since WWII..... well I won't argue the point.

 

and what percentage of the minorities did the GOP attract in the 2014 midterms, did the numbers go up or down? Nothing is permanent in politics, unless you believe that voters are a static commodity rather than people who can be appealed to on an individual basis. In 2008 Obama won by attracting a huge increase in the youth vote. The youth vote has been in a decline ever since. In 2012 Romney lost because the evangelical Republicans stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon. GOP has their TP in the closet, Dems have a far left progressive wing they need to get a handle on..issues issues issues.

I do have to wonder what a Huckabee/ Martinez 2016 ticket would do for the GOP? hmmmm something to think about

 

If such figures were determined and you can find them, please let me know.

The midterms attracted only 37% voter participation whereas national elections average around 60%. That record low turnout meant that older Republicans gave the GOP a huge advantage (Fully 22% of 2014 voters were 65 and older — a group GOP candidates won by 16-points. By comparison, in 2012, they made up just 16% of the electorate.)

Republicans would be foolish to expect to see 14's favorable numbers in presidential years (Only 13 percent of voters in '14 were under 30, and more than 40% of likely nonvoters in the 2014 elections identified as Hispanic, Black or other racial/ethnic minorities, compared with only 22% of likely voters.)

But if you have no problem with the GOP ignoring the demographic implications, neither do I.

We can agree to scoff at the concern expressed within the Party's hierarchy:

 

we don't HAVE to "get it", dude. we have the truth and the money on our side.

 

the way I see it 100% of the eligible voters participated, some by casting a ballot while the rest decided it was not worth their time or interest to do so. Obviously more of the Democratic voters made the decision that the Democratic candidates in their districts were not worth their time. If they had felt that the Democratic candidates policies were better than the Republicans they would have went to the polls to try and ensure they got put into office. God only knows that this midterm saw some serious spending

For months, a billion-dollar ad blitz has flooded the airwaves here and in other closely contested states leading up to Tuesday's midterm election, another sign that the nation has entered a new era in political spending driven less by candidates and more by outside groups and their deep-pocketed donors.

In North Carolina alone, groups supporting Democratic Sen. Kay Hagan and Republican challenger Thom Tillis have spent more than $72 million, and television stations aired close to 100,000 political commercials — two-thirds of them negative. At $107 million and counting, according to the Sunlight Foundation, the campaign is the most expensive Senate race ever.

North Carolina and three other states that could decide which party controls the Senate — Colorado, Iowa and Georgia — saw a late surge of spending from outside groups over the last week totaling $26.5 million, according to the Campaign Finance Institute.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-election-spending-20141104-story.html#page=1

the odd thing is Democratic Spending on the Senate increased while GOP spending decreased according to this study

http://mediaproject.wesleyan.edu/releases/ad-spending-tops-1-billion/

 

Yep. That pretty much sums it up. If I were a Democrat I'd be scared spitless right now. 'Course I could never let anyone see me that way, never let on that I'm skeert, so I'd have to talk big spit just to convince others I'm still on the rail.

 

You can trust anyone who hasn't been caught lying.

 

Yeah, both parties suck. But NONE of the people running those parties are permanent fixtures. They work for US and if enough of US get fed up, they won't have a job anymore and we'll have a chance to put people there who understand what we want.

Whether anybody wants to admit it or not... the GOP is slowly changing. New faces are bringing in new attitudes and new energy. The 'tea party' movement sent a message loud & clear that conservatives in this country demand to be heard. And Republicans are listening. In fact, they're listening so good, it's no longer necessary to consider making the Tea Party a third party. Their influence is just where it needs to be, and where it can do the most good.

Politicians Affiliated With the Tea Party

Dems have a right to be scared. They're a dying party.

 

I support the "less government" idea of the tea party, trying to get our nation back on track, but their fixation of religion is what drives me away. I am socially a liberal. Religion and government should be two different things.

 

There is no mention of religion nor social issues in the Tea Party's platform.



Individuals have differing opinions on social issues. Nobody is forced to walk lock-step with any conservative grassroots movement. It's liberal groups that are intolerant of differing views.

 

The corporate elite's GOP toadies' butt-kicking of TPs is about to move inside Congress.

I predict the wacko birds will have a relapse: Birtherism Stage II is about to commence in the form of Benghazi.



Unfortunately, whereas the loony "birther" shtick became a laughing matter, Behghazi constitutes a relentless, shameless exploitation of the honourable dead who will not be allowed to rest in peace as do all those victims of terrorist attacks that occurred under Powell's and Rice's tenures.

How many more millions of tax payer dollars will those who can't handle the truth dump into their futile vendetta? Will they hope that eight is the charm? Nine perchance? Or one-hundred and forty-seven?

They whiled away the hours of the 113th Congress by token votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act at least 50 times. Will their latest obsessive-compulsive disorder similarly befoul the 114th?

Well, if they really think that they have nothing better to do, intensive thumb-twiddling until '16 might show them off to better advantage.


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I find the entire OP very dishonest.

The Tea Party is not the racist they're making it out to be.

I believe the entire argument is actually a logical fallacy as well.


Essentially put, this is just another dishonorable tactic to weaken the Republican party.

And hypocritical too, because they won't kick out the racists in their own party.

Which of course, would end the Democratic party because that party is and always shall be the true and real party of racism.

 

As the TPs lick their wounds after the thrashing that Turtle "I think we're going to crush them everywhere!" McConnell and his prissy establishment bully boys administered to them, it looks as if that long, hard slog, Turdblossom's War Against the TPs, has finally wound down into a mopping up operation.

Yes, some, like the vanquished TP McDaniel in Mississippi, are still moaning, that they want to expose the “ugly, ugly under belly of some element of the Republican Party,” but whether anyone is still paying any attention to their shtick is questionable. (Who really wants to see Turtle and Turdblossom flashing their navels?)

Fancying themselves a reincarnation of some eighteenth century hooligans who sneakily destroyed private property, the latter-day malcontents may only have Brownbackistan, their disastrous Red State Model as their extremist pipe dream realized.

Elsewhere, their Benghazi fantasies are being relegated to the "Birther" dustbin of whackjob history, Romney's "ultimate conservatism" individually-mandated universal-coverage scheme is the law of the land (as Big Shot TP DeMint had prescribed), equality in marriage law proliferates, families of undocumented workers are not forcibly separated whilst the focus of immigration policy is now apprehending and deporting criminals, and the US economy continues to recover from the abysmal depths to which it it had plunged by December, 2008.

Looking ahead, the record-low voter turn-out of 2014 (only 37%) will soar to around 60% in the national election of 2016, more GOP Senate seats will be at risk, and the demographic diversity and age advantage of the Democratic Party about which Senator Graham rails, will have continued further along it's ineluctable course.

Some Democrats may be hoping the furtive Congressional TPs will continue to snipe at their leadership and that their tantrums may even result in shutting down a Yellowstone or two, but they should not become giddy.

Let's just be thankful for the auspicious prospects.

 

You appear to be quite the expert regarding racism and bigotry.

 

Natty Bumpo is in a meltdown. The TP must be doing something right. What the GOP does about the Tea Party supporters really depends on whether or not the GOP wants conservative votes. It's rather like the Democrats and their communist problem. Sadly for the Democrats they've chosen.

 

"What'll the GOP do about their TP Problem Now?"

sure it's about time for them to flush the TP name down the toilet and come up with another.... they just keep dirtying all their old names, Religious right being the last one



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Your stealth insult is noted.

But this is pretty much how I've been treated all of my life,l is with fear, revulsion, hatred and bigotry, with very few people ever actually treating me like I'm a human being.

So yes, with the only thing people do is insult me to tell me the shut the flock up, yeah, I'm pretty much an expert, and can often spot it it right off. And even when a lot of other people don't even know they're being bigoted or racist.

When you hear people chanting the words incessantly for years and years, understanding what it looks like is what you get. It's the narrative that is important. Tact and respect are never the purview of the narcissistic endeavors of the control freaks whop wish to put you down for the sake of their elitist mindset.

Fabrications underlie the conditions these knaves seek. Yearning for respect is ignored, being seen as useless. Because only their interests matter, and when a person is too emotionally invested into something, Understanding is not the key, only the ends is what matter, and is that control that drives them.