Whats the difference between Mexicans illegally entering by land & Cubans illegally entering by sea?

Another dodge and another example of not doing ones research. Coyotes/human smugglers don't work free of charge. The atrocities you listed are being committed by those same groups growing more powerful with the steady stream of income weak border security provides. While illegal immigration does benefit some Americans, it is also costly to many. That doesn't excuse policies that result in the atrocities you mentioned.

 

What the hell does any of that has to do either with this topic or with anything I have said? If you are trying to claim I said coyotes work for free, QUOTE it!

 

Cubans mostly vote Republican. Their "compassion'' is based soley on how they will vote. Faker than a 3 $ bill.

 

Persons departing Mexico have been known to try enter
via a boat.

Board the boat in Baja,
circle around San Diego and beach the boat in northern San Diego county or southern Orange county. Try avoid Camp Pendleton
If caught, they don't get no "I Came By Sea" privileges.
The highway parallel to the ocean, The 5 absorbing that section of Pacific Coast Highway (route 1) and the 101, has graphic warning signs to
Beware of Families running across the highway.


So, what's the difference?
Support Universal "Catch & Release over there".
Be sure to give them the address of the closest
embassy to appeal the infringement of their rights.


Moi

The most likely to
over stay a visa​

 

Yup------------the Biden regime is scared as hell of Cuban refugees because they are afraid they will vote republican.

 

I don't now. Maybe because California is not in the Caribbean (rougher waters, says Mayorkas)... But what gave you the idea that I was claiming there is a difference?

 

My pleasure.


Me: "And aren't these the same people profiting and growing stronger from illegal immigration?"

You: "No. Americans are the ones who are growing stronger and profiting from illegal immigration.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...legal-immigrants-benefit-this-country.549973/"

You clearly answered "No". Did you make a mistake or do you believe human smugglers work for nothing?

 

Got proof of that claim, or did you pull it out of your keester?

 

Rio Grande is very wet.

 

No one on the left advocates the kind of authoritarianism practiced in Cuba, et al, not even Bernie Sanders, who rebuked the authoritarianism of Cuba.

 

Your guys just provided it by telling Cubans fleeing actual oppression in a communist regime, to not come here.

 

Not how he felt in 1985.

 

You can buy a burner cell phone ez. IDs, harder if you are less than ambulatory elderly, and lost your birth cert years ago or a college student and no car and little money, etc.

 

Sure, the fact that Democrats are taking such a hard line against Cuban immigrants now.

 

Do you acknowledge that coyotes profit from illegal immigration?

 

everybody on the planet Earth already knows so admitting it is really more about you.

And it's the first step.

But seriously yes that's exactly what it's about more than that these people that will come here and see idiots acting a fool talking about how they're going to get socialism right for the first time ever while making the same exact mistakes as people previous to them, the Cubans are going to say that's exactly how Cuba became a communist state you don't realize you're marching right to that do you?

The Democratic party would do itself a huge favor if it unfriended the far left these people are not your friends

 

For them truth is an infection.

 

Yep. Only questions, as you can see:

Because crossing by land is dangerous, as is crossing by sea. Why exactly would the message, NEVER attempt entry by LAND, NOT be a humanitarian one?

 

It's the exact same kind of authoritarianism that exists no matter where communism happens, and Bernie Sanders absolutely adores the idea of a government having draconian control over a country's economy.

Communism = authoritarianism, and you'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand the simple math of it.

 

"Whats the difference between Mexicans illegally entering by land & Cubans illegally entering by sea?"


or people coming to visit legally and never leaving?

none, why a wall is pointless

 

U.S. Customs and Border Protection data shows vividly the sharp contrast between the approaches of the Trump and Biden administration toward Cuban migrants.

In December 2020 - the last full month of Trump's presidency - nearly two-thirds of all Cubans caught crossing the border were expelled to Mexico under a pandemic-related health order known as Title 42. By May of this year, the last month data is available, around 96% of Cubans were allowed into the United States to reunite with U.S.-based family members and seek legal status in immigration court.

The majority of Cuban migrants being allowed in are single adults, a notable development because Biden has continued to expel the vast majority of individual adults arriving from Central America and Mexico. He has made exceptions only for unaccompanied minors and most families.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...ngs-amid-protests-most-cross-land-2021-07-13/

 

Bernie Sanders has joined top Democrats and Republicans in voicing his support for Cubans protesting against their government – while also criticising decades of US policy towards the island nation.

The self-described socialist senator tweeted on Monday that “all people have the right to protest and to live in a democratic society,” calling on the government to “respect opposition rights and refrain from violence”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sanders-cuba-protests-democracy-b1883235.html

 

What's your point?

 

You have no evidence to support that claim. He is, however, on record disapproving of authoritarian communism.

The wikipedia entry on Communism, when printed on 8 1/2" x 11" paper, occupies 27 pages.

To reduce the term to a one liner reveals ignorance of the dimensionality of the subject.

Classical communism is based on the teachings of Karl Marx, which is antithetical to authoritarianism.

The communism as it evolved by Lenin/Stalin, etc., would fit your description.

If one wants to argue that classical communism, when practiced, will inevitably become authoritarian, that, while not absolutely irrefutable, is a legitimate argument, but it is a separate subject, requiring a thorough study. One could make this a thesis paper for a Phd/Masters, etc.

But, notably the only reason those on the right argue this point is that they falsely assume democrats are promoting Leninism/Stalinism, etc, either that or they imply it, and they do love to imply it, the premise of which is utterly false. And, in fact, liberals and democrats do not support communism in any of it's incarnations, Marxist or otherwise.

One thing I have observed by those on the right, and it is this: one cannot discuss Communism/Marxism, etc, with a Trump believer with any degree of intelligence without being accused of supporting authoritarianism and/or communism. Witness, for example, the McCarthy era and it's wretched 'if you attended a meeting or once had in your possession a communist pamphlet buried in your storage box though you forgot about it long ago' you are an anti-American commie mentality. OPs such as this remind me of McCarthyism.

And, I suspect, you are in that category.

 

You began this thread with a hair on fire assertion Cubans were being discriminated against by the Biden admin relative to admission to the US because once they establish citizenship here they tend to vote for Repubs. If that were so the Biden admin, in contrast to Trump's, would not be allowing 96% of Cubans who show up at the Mexican border in to the country.

https://apnews.com/article/central-...-immigration-058c2e338b4942faa9bc63f96ca90cb5