Whats the difference between Mexicans illegally entering by land & Cubans illegally entering by sea?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Whats the difference between Mexicans illegally entering by land & Cubans illegally entering by sea? The Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas certainly seems to think that there's some difference. Here's what he said about the Cubans coming by sea:

    "The time is NEVER right to attempt migration by sea.


    "Any migrant intercepted at sea, regardless of their nationality, will not be permitted to enter the United States." https://www.dhs.gov/news/2021/07/13...s-us-maritime-migrant-interdiction-operations

    However, here's what he said about the Mexicans back in March:

    "We are not saying, “Don’t come.” We are saying, “Don’t come now because we will be able to deliver a safe and orderly process to them as quickly as possible.”
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...tary-of-homeland-security-alejandro-mayorkas/

    So to the Mexicans he said: "We are not saying, Don’t come. We are saying, “Don’t come NOW!"

    And to the Cubans, he said: "The time is NEVER right to attempt migration by sea."

    Does that strike anyone as slightly inconsistent? Might it have something to do with the fact that a huge percentage of any Mexicans who enter and who end up getting citizenship are likely to vote Democrat, and a huge percentage of any Cubans who enter and who end up getting citizenship are likely to vote Republican? And why would the people at sea be turned around, rather than caught and released into the interior of the country as with land crossings?
     
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    Your last paragraph sums it up in a nutshell. :applause:
     
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    If Hondurans voted Republican, we'd have an electrified wall a mile high across the southern border with machine gun nests every 20 feet.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    THAT'S IT!! You've discovered the master plan for Dem dominance. Keep a few dozen Cubans from risking their lives by trying to get here by sea so they can't upend the balance of electoral power in the nation. What a patriot you are.

    I’d like to spend a few minutes to provide you with an overview of what we have done and are continuing to do and what we are dedicated to achieving. We are dedicated to achieving and, quite frankly, are working around the clock to replace the cruelty of the past administration with an orderly, humane, and safe immigration process. It is hard, and it will take time. But rest assured, we are going to get it done.

    Let me explain to you why it is hard and why it is going to take time. I think it is important to understand what we have inherited, because it defines the situation as it currently stands. Entire systems are not rebuilt in a day or in a few weeks. To put it succinctly, the prior administration dismantled our nation’s immigration system in its entirety.

    When I started 27 days ago, I learned that we did not have the facilities available or equipped to administer the humanitarian laws that our Congress passed years ago. We did not have the personnel, policies, procedures, or training to administer those laws. Quite frankly, the entire system was gutted.

    Working very closely with the Mexican government and international organizations in Mexico, we have developed a virtual platform that enables individuals with active cases in the “Remain in Mexico” program to actually register for relief using their phones.
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    If you'd like to prove to me that no Cubans are being allowed to immigrate to the US, rather than Mayorkas' message being one of discouraging dangerous attempts at immigration in small boats by sea, go right ahead.
     
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    So we are only opposed to some illegal aliens?
     
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    Whats the difference between Mexicans illegally entering by land & Cubans illegally entering by sea?

    One is dry while the other is wet?
     
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    I must admit, I did not expect such a good statement on illegal immigration from Mayorkas. I'm a little confused as to why, but beggars can't be choosers.
     
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    Typical politician who puts his power above the USA and the people he represents. We should not be surprised.
     
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    The Cubans come bearing truths about socialism that make the Democrats squirm.
     
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    It is perfectly consistent with Democrat politics as you explain. It is further hypocritical as the fleeing Cubans are known full well to be fleeing persecution by their government in well understood fear for their lives. Can't say the same for the southern land border crossings which, BTW, include many nationalities.

    There was a time when US law gave Cuban refugees special dispensation of sorts, though I don't know but don't think it still applies.
     
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    Mayorkas said if they do come they will be resettled in other countries.

    So why the disparate treatment other than politics?
     
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    Who said anything about "a few dozen?"

    Whose quote is that?

    We're not talking about legal immigration, and you know it.
     
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    So, nothing more intelligent than that then? That's all you've got?
     
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    How is it a good statement?
     
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    There were special rules for Cubans from Lyndon Johnson on until Barak Obama did away with them.

    So its no longer about "what part of illegal don't you understand" now its where did you come from. Aren't there any countries in South and Central America who are socialist? If so why aren't those illegals welcomed like you would welcome Cubans?
     
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    I see you have no sense of humor. I'm against illegal immigration no matter where they come from. Any other questions?
     
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    It's pretty obvious. If you're captured at sea you haven't entered the United States!

    Your conspiracy theory fails at this and other levels. For instance, you rely on taking the quote out of context. Here is the full quote

    The Coast Guard maintains a continual presence in the Florida straits and the Caribbean Sea, particularly around Puerto Rico and our maritime approaches, patrolling with air and sea military assets. Any migrant intercepted at sea, regardless of their nationality, will not be permitted to enter the United States. Migrants who do attempt to enter the United States by sea put their lives at incredible risk. The waters in the straits of Florida in the Caribbean are dangerous, especially now as we have entered hurricane season. People will die.

    Obviously he is talking about the risk. And "regardless of their nationality" doesn't mean Cubans. Most of those captured at sea are not Cubans. More Cubans prefer to go to Mexico by sea, and then by land the rest of the way.

    Given that entering by sea is both incredibly dangerous and much more unlikely to succeed, Mayorkas' message is a humanitarian one: NEVER attempt entry by sea.

    So there you have it. One more conspiracy website you can close the lid on.
     
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    Is that why there is more Hispanics holding an elected office in the GOP than in the DNC?
    More Latinos Bid ‘Adios’ to Democrats
    Election results in Texas show the migration to the GOP may finally be starting.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-latinos-bid-adios-to-democrats-11623104251
     
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    Notice they never mention the white ones?
     
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    There are times when I wish someone would investigate how many people die in the heat and cold trying to get into this country. And I’m not talking about just the ones who die once they cross our border, but how many die in Mexico and points south. We already is know about 40% of the women are sexually abused and raped, so let’s count the deaths and save their lives by pushing them back where they came from otherwise known as the only home they’ve ever known.
     
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    They don't support democrats... They recognize that democrats seem pretty much like the Castro tyranny they are fleeing.
     
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    What other color is sneaking into our country by the hundreds of thousands?,

    why is race all you guys see? You guys need to get a life and stop listening to the race hustlers.
     
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    Why would you say that?
     
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    Cubans entering by sea are not entering illegally, they get automatic asylum once they have one foot on our shores.

    The Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966
     
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    I find it "interesting" the impoverished immigrants milling around in Mexico can "...register for relief by using their phones (?)." when impoverished Americans can't obtain IDs....dichotomy much?
     

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