White Guilt is ABSURD!

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Is white guilt rational?

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  2. No

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  1. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    This isn't about what I believe. It's about what you believe and the inconsistencies therein.
     
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    lol............I don't think from this poll anyone is fooled but one. There's one in every punchbowl. :mrgreen:
     
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    Negative, because that is all of us paying for things we all benefit from. Ie roads, plumbing, etc.
     
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    There's nothing inconsistent in what I believe. I think I've made this quite clear.
     
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    The only inconsistancy is to believe blacks need reparations. But not native Americans. So ignorant.

    Reparations are unjust.
     
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    You said:
    "People should be held liable for what they do. And only what they do."

    I didn't DO anything to incur liability to a government. So, do you believe this
    "People should be held liable for what they do. And only what they do."
    , or not?
     
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    Why?
     
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    Native Americans got reparations. I want my share of a casino. I've got some Choctaw blood, no kidding. :p
     
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    PERHAPS had this come up 175 years ago, you'd have a leg to stand on. THEY ARE DEAD! For them, that's 4 or 5 generations ago. What the hell?
     
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    I answered you there already. Just because you don't like the answer or refuse to look at it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Scroll up.

    How you don't possess the critical thinking to understand it is beyond reason.
     
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    You voted to say something is irrational. Believing that, you should be able to provide a rational explanation as to why. Will you go ahead and do that now, please?
     
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    You use the roads, plumbing, side walks, etc.

    So you objectively DO owe money. In form of taxation.

    I seen this set up a mile away. Your attempt to find a logical hiccup, failed.
     
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    There is no road usage tax. There is no plumbing usage tax or sidewalk usage tax. If there were, I would pay for them as I pay for everything else.

    You said people should only be held accountable for what they DO, as if you were affirming some just principle, but now you're saying I should pay for services I never contracted for. I guess I'm assuming you meant it honestly, as in the sense that one DOES a thing INTENTIONALLY, but now you're making it sound as if falling out of my mother at some particular location and then going about my life is something I should be held accountable for.

    If that's the standard, then you owe reparations to Johnny C for falling out of your white mother and then benefiting from all the slave work his ancestors did, not to mention the land tax Native Americans need to impose on you ex post facto post haste.
     
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    Taxes pay for the creation and upkeep of all those things. So you are objectively wrong. There IS a tax for those things. It is the tax.

    So your comparison is a logical fallacy. Your attempt to find a logical hiccup failed.

    Reparations are an unjust attempt to make white people pay for things they never did, to blacks who never experienced it. But you objectively DO use the things that taxes pay for. So you do owe that money.

    That type of social justice, stands in direct opposition to actual justice. By that logic, I should steal from all blacks because 1 black stole from me.

    You have been proven objectively incorrect. Are you willing to do the correct thing and adjust your opinion appropriately? I doubt it. I bet your hatred of white people is to strong.
     
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    We're not using my "logic" here, we're using your line of reasoning, the one you laid out when you said people should only be held accountable for what they do.

    Like I said, I assumed you meant "do" honestly, as in one does business with another, both parties knowing and agreeing to the conditions under which they will associate beforehand. Obviously, I was mistaken and you didn't mean it that way.
     
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    You are doing something to justify taxing you. You are using roads, and sidewalks, etc. That IS doing.

    To try and compare taxes to reperations over slavery so long ago that no one here has participated in or experienced and claim that by simply being white I owe black people money for simply being black is about as desperate and dishonest of a comparison I've seen yet.

    Face it, you tried and failed to find a logical hiccup.

    Lololol!
     
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    Okay, you don't want to be honest. You insist on this new understanding of "doing" as something one does whether he knows or agrees or not. So, by that standard, why should native Americans not impose a tax of their choosing on you for using their land? You do use it, right?
     
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    I'm being completely honest. There is no new understanding of doing. This is the same definition of the word that has always existed.

    This land is no longer there's. Hasn't been for hundreds of years. So they have no claim to tax me.

    Again, you tried to find a logical hiccup and failed. Face it, you simply are wrong.

    Reparations are unjust.
     
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    I just don't understand what this statement
    has to do with these:
     
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    Ofcourse you don't, you have shown an astounding lack of critical thinking. But the connection is there.
     
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    Well, anytime you get around to making it; that would be fine.
     
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    I've made it. You just cannot comprehend it.

    Which is no surprise coming from the same person who tried to compare taxes to reparations LOL.
     
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    You described the objective link existing tax jurisdictions have to the right to the money of the people they extract taxes from? I guess I just missed it, my bad.
     
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    Yes, you did miss it lolol because I did exactly that. But cognitive dissonance is a powerful force. So I'm genuinely not surprised you missed it.
     
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    Okay, well I think I'll go to sleep now. Do you mind posting the link to where you did; it'd be nice to see when I get up. Also, you should probably save it because I think you'll win a Nobel Prize for such an insight.
     

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