White House official corroborates diplomat’s account that Trump appeared to seek quid pro quo

I never said Trump colluded with Putin. MSM didn't say it either. They reported that there was an investigation, but I don't ever recall a mainstream news outlet reporting that Trump had colluded with Putin. If you can prove otherwise, provide a link.

Hunter Biden working for Burisma was not corrupt. Sure he was trading on his name, but taking advantage of his name is not corruption. It is an unfair advantage, but not corruption. By your measure, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner having roles in the WH is corruption.

It is perfectly valid for Biden, as V-P, to represent American interests abroad and to pursue the administration's objectives. That is what he did. He was not acting for himself, but he was pursuing the administration's goals.

Trump, on the other hand, was pursuing his own personal political objectives that were the opposite of all of the analysis, approvals and conclusions that the rest of his administration had reached.

Biden was not the boss. He was doing what the entire administration and the western world agreed was important. He was doing his job.
Trump, as the boss, overrode everything that those under him recommended - and the only reason for doing so was to get a foreign country to do a hatchet job on a political opponent. There really is no other explanation that fits with the facts.

 

Well if anything you say is true (it isn't, but let's run with it) then the DOJ should investigate and ask Ukraine for help. There is a treaty that requires Ukraine to provide that help if the DOJ asks. The treaty does NOT permit the president or anyone else to ask Ukraine to start an investigation into an American citizen.

 

You're exactly right just like the ones who testified there's a quid pro quo in the transcript when it's obvious to everyone there's not. You guys say people testified and provided proof Ukraine knew the money was held up unless biden investigated, show the damn testimony real freaking simple. Everything leaked is a perception or opinion nothing more.

 

You and the MSM said he colluded with Russia please stop parsing words, everyone knows Putin is Russa.

 

What evidence of a crime would justify this investigation?

Or, are you just hoping to fish for political smear?

 

Trump doesn't need a fireside chat to READ his phone call.. He'll go off on tangents.. He should just release the full transcript.... unless he's looking to do major chaos to another 48 hour news cycle.

 

No, they didn't.. You're assuming and reacting to your assumptions.

 

Not really. There was / is a lot of stuff going on before and after the transcript. The clock doesn't stop at the phone call. It stops at the whistleblower report.

 

But, but, Rudy!

 

Maybe, but biden didn't do that!! In fact the Ukrainian prosecutor was forced out for NOT investigating corruption. Also, it's a well known fact is that hunters' company was NOT being actively investigating at the time dumb old joe finally got shokin fired.
It's hard to know how to take your posts when you say silly sh!t like this.

 

I didn’t say that and MSM didn’t say that. They reported on the investigation.

 

Yes, he was forced out for not investigating the company his corrupt son was working for, while Joe was "point man" on Ukraine and having lunches with your "whistleblower".

This is hilarious.

Joe Biden: UNLESS YOU INVESTIGATE THE CORRUPT COMPANY MY CORRUPT SON WORKS FOR THANKS TO MY CORRUPT INFLUENCE, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE MONEY

 

Buh buh Weismann +12 angry democrats.

 

I'm sure he'll take your opinions into consideration about the bleach bitted "real" transcript.

 

Except it did happen.

Of course the treaty would allow investigation into a US citizen working at a foreign company. That requires little effort to figure out. How do you think they got Manafort?

You're starting to make me squint here.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-and-ukraine-11569881729

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/10/ukraine-alignment-hillary-clinton-began-2013-polit/

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

https://www.usubc.org/site/USUBC-Washington-Watch/usubc-washington-watch-no-4

https://www.wsj.com/articles/keep-americas-word-againand-protect-ukraine-1484007466

 

I think Nancy will pick one obstruction out of the Mueller report to add to the impeachment.
Do you have a favorite?

 

LOL, listen huckleberry, it wasn't just bumbling joe who was pushing for a shokin ouster. Ooops.
What's hilarious is some peoples inability to follow logic to it's conclusion.

 

Good, I enjoy a little spice in my fiction.

You go ahead and pick one and let me wreck it for you.

 

Yeah that makes sense.

Shoukin was fired because he wouldn't investigate Burisma, then his replacement didn't investigate Burisma.

Genius really.

Who says Shokin was corrupt? The Obama administration.

 

Again, think for yourself. Even if (and its a big if - also, make no mistake I'm no fan of bidens fwiw) joe had ulterior motives the BEST you can conclude is that the wishes of the rest of the western hemisphere happened to dovetail with his desire to keep burisma protected. Good luck making that stick.

 

It's hilarious he said the MSM never suggested there was a Trump/Putin "collusion" effort.

I honestly can't even believe he said that.

It's like the nonsense they rave on about for 3 years just falls out of their heads when they're on to the next piece of nonsense.

 

I'm a little partial to the McGahn one.
But I don't want to wait for the obstruction on the release allowing McGahn to testify.
But it might make it out of the courts by Christmas. So I'll go with it anyway.
Wreck away.

 

What we're witnessing here is a total and utter failure of Democrats to get rid of Trump. For the last three years, Democrats have thrown at Trump everything they got and they've been unified at it - MSM, FBI, CIA, the courts, everything. And they can't get rid of Trump! Trump is standing tall doing the work of the American people, chews gum and is taking numbers. And Democrats can't stand it!

I feel better and better about the choice I've made 3 years. ago.

Trump 2020

 

LOL ok now we know we can't take you even remotely seriously, seriously.

 

Ohhh the "wishes of the western hemisphere".

Where did you hear that?

Was it the same people in the EU and the US nation-building in Ukraine?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-exchange-on-ukraine-eu-idUSBREA1601G20140207