White House shines rainbow colors to hail same-sex marriage ruling

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  1. Taxpayer

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    Yes, the constitution supersedes state laws. And the majority did rule, it ruled that no state can deny equal protection under the law to it's citizens.​


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    Stop equating a religious institution that establishes a union between a man and a woman, with a purely secular arrangement. It is an infringement upon the very foundation of the United States of America... which has specified that the government has no right to impose itself upon the religious rights of others. This is what is meant by separation of Church and State.

    You have to understand that when you destroy one part of the Constitution, you are destroying all the Constitution...and that is what protects you and everyone.


    Then they should prove they are legally a couple and be given the same rights in hospitals or wherever..but it should not be considered a marriage, since that is a 'religious' term that constitutes a union between a man and a woman. It goes against the Constitution which specifies a separation between Church and State in order to protects people's religious rights.

    Let me give you a history lesson. At the time the Constitution was written up by some very brilliant men, each colony had its own Church...in the same way as the nations in Europe. Anyone who did not belong to it became an 'unperson'.

    In order to pacify the fears of the individual states that the Federal Government would not establish it's own 'Church' and impose itself upon the rights of others to worship as they please, they put in a clause separating Church from State. By using the term 'marriage', the court has involved itself in matters which are purely religious. There are serious implications which might lead to a civil war.

    Lord, what fools these mortals be...William Shakespeare.
     
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    Make an issue out of a non issue. (Look over here ignore that over there)

    We have more problems than a couple of homos being married but by god that's what our president is going to worry about.

    The SCOTUS has ruled twice now against the people. (Don't thank the constitution - Scalia)

    Were going to worry about .5% of the population while Iran is busy signing bills and chanting death to America.

    We're worried about a couple of sexual deviants compared to something that can kill 99.99% of a major city's population.

    Ignorance, at it's finest levels.
     
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    Our government makes a habit of going into other nations and causing ethnic and religious friction with its NGO's for regime changes...usually leading to civil wars and deaths. Well whatever someone does will back to bite them, so this 'unconstitutional' ruling might just be the final straw that broke the camels back.

    Lord, what fools these mortals be - William Shakespeare
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "Southern Cross" was a battle flag. At least you didn't call it the "Stars and Bars" since that flag wasn't a battle flag but the National Colors of the Confederate States of America. I'm still seeing libs on CNN and other news outlets referring to the Confederate Battle Flag as the Stars and Bars. :roflol:

    But isn't the LGBT rainbow flag their battle flag ?
     
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    Marriage existed before religion as we know it came into the mix, so don't pretend that religion owns the word...how ridiculous
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Naom Chomsky said that Iran and nuclear weapons is a non issue. There are two rogue nuclear powers that are a threat to everyone, and that is Israel and the US.
     
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    Marriage became a legal term the first time a law was written that discriminated between people based on their being 'married' or not. Churches did not object to the use of that trademark at that time and now, after we have implemented thousands of laws, statutes, and codes that rely on it, it is too late for a church to claim exclusive ownership of the term. They lost the trademark.

    Of course nothing is stopping them from re-branding their product. They're welcome to offer or deny Catholic™ marriage or St. Mathews™ marriages however they like. They just can't stop the state or others from offering generic marriage to those they refuse to support.



     
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    l'd probably feel much worse about all that conservative wailing and weeping were it not for the fact that the SCOTUS is overwhelmingly conservative.

    And, it's not up to the SCOTUS to vote FOR the people, it's up to the SCOTUS to stay within the framework of the Constitution and precedent. That doesn't always work out the way conservatives would LIKE it to.
     
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    No, I disagree, marriage existed before Christianity for sure, but marriage was always a religious ceremony, whether that be a pagan religion, It is still understood to be a right of passage between two people that has significance within their society.

    And traditionally marriage was the institution from which children were born. The idea of same sex marriage is a 20th & 21st century abomination of the idea of marriage.

    Same sex marriage is a tiny & insignificant % of the population & has become a media issue only to draw out those nethandel cavemen of the conservation persuasion, to make them look stupid & become hate figures by the beaujoire bohemian metropolitan trendies, who love to bate these conservative with such insignificant issues as same sex marriages.
     
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    I did hear those mentioned.

    But I also heard they will be demanding gay polygamy, that gays and lesbians should have the right to marry as many sexual partners that they choose. That a gay household will be nothing more that a big gay bath house a 24/7 orgie. Remember the San Francisco bath houses during the 80's a breeding ground for AIDS ?


    Back during the 60's and 70's the gays were "asking" for repealing the sodomy laws, they said it's all they wanted nothing else. Ask politely you usually get what you ask for and the sodomy laws were scrubbed from the state statues. But then some gays and lesbians went political and became political leftist activists "demanding" more changes, they just didn't want the whole nine yards but more.
     
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    Obama is an aliskyite and his job is to agitate and to divide. It's about the only thing Obama is competent at.
     
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    What are you talking about? Are you saying there was a time when religions didn't exist ...Uhhh, please tell me when? Somehow I can't picture a couple going in front of a secular court and judge in Rome and repeating an oath...if such a thing as secular even existed.

    Now going in front of the emperor that was different, after all he was a god. Hmmm, so was Alexander the Great?



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    I'll give you that and you will see swedish flags occasionally in Minnesota but never on a public building. I don't care what flag is flown in a persons private property, just not on a public building. Lets not encourage loosing in our youth.


     
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    Yes, there were Pagan structures way before Christianity and Catholicism entered the picture. So unless we have a Pagan accusing gays of hijacking the word "marriage" the entire premise of religion owing the word is bat crap crazy.

     
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    From Obama's own published books and from Obama's Columbia University buds, Obama never looked upon himself as an America but as an internationalist.

    His actions as President seems to confirm that.

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    How many thousands died because of a life style of buggery and AIDS ?
     
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    Uhhh, I think your reference is one of George Soros' groups. Lot's of credibility there.

    To claim a union between homosexuals is a marriage, is like calling Obama a Pope. Two different institutions. Who knows though in our Orwellian topsy turvy society it might come about...but it won't last for too long. We are in for some big problems, and it might be the end of the US...or at least the US as an empire.

    Unlike Washington, Russia is a democracy, they do what the people want. At least there they have some sanity...and a respect for the religious sensibilities of the Orthodox, Muslims, Catholics, and others. Putin is not willing to sell his soul and his country for money.:applause:
     
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    But the LGBT claim they are no different than anyone else that they aren't second class citizens. If true, why are they demanding special protections that the majority of Americans don't have ?

    The cultural-Marxist are using the LGBT community just as Adolph Hitler used the German homosexuals to gain political power during the 1920's.

    What happened after Hitler gained political power ? He went after the homosexuals, he no longer needed them.

    As history has repeatedly shown us, inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.
     
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    I'm curious, why did the South adopt Saint Andrews cross for it's flag? Did it have something to do with Scotland?
     
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    *shrug* Protection from what?





     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I went to the best source and it seems there must be a whole lot of people asking the same question at this time. Here's what I got.

     
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    I see that you are one of those that are seething at the prospect of marriage rights equality, which is really the issue here. This does not amaze me at all seeing that you defend/deny the homophobia that Putin has exacerbated in his domain. I on the other hand, as well as many others, have been on the right side of this issue as yesterday has proven and history will prove out again. Sorry that same sex marriage offends your sensibilities, but right is right and wrong is wrong and bigotry and ignorance has never been proven actually righteous.

    I cannot wait to celebrate on behalf of and with my gay friends in NYC at the annual parade and at the now historic Stonewall Inn. :banana:

     
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    I don't know but I bet they will think of something.
     
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    Stonewall Inn ???

    Stonewall isn't politically correct, it represents slavery and the Old South.

    Demand they replace the name to something more PC, it will make Stonewall Jackson to turn over in his grave. :smile:
    The insanity of it all, cultural-Marxism aka political correctness has gone blitzkrieg in America.
     
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    Then you see yourself as the determiner of what is right and what is wrong? You're taking a lot upon yourself aren't you?


    That's fine, but I can assure you the celebrations won't last for long...and those who are celebrating today I'm afraid won't be around to celebrate tomorrow...if there is even a tomorrow. They should have taken a lot more into account before bypassing the protections given to people of religious faith by our Constitution.
     

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