Who are the proud boys

This CRAP is just the latest lies and propaganda from the lying liberal media and dem sympathizers.

Steve

 

Steve as usual if you disagree it is the lying ...fill in your own group. That is intellectually lazy. Instead of using blanket unsupported condemnation of these groups, why don't point out exactly what the lies are? Fact: Proud Boys have been involved in violence more than one time in more than one place. Fact: you decry the use of violence by people on the left as do I, but not people on the right. I suggest we both decry any use of violence by any groups and support any groups right to non violent protests.

 

I cannot imagine anyone reading or listening to the lying liberal media after the many, many lies they've been caught in promoting in FAVOR of the dem party.

In fact, by the media's OWN POLLING the media is now at or near its lowest level of TRUST by the PEOPLE in HISTORY.

Your promoting these lies only puts YOU in the category of believing lies and propaganda.

Steve

 

Yes you do.

These people are no different than the Marxist mobs in Russia, of Mao, and Pol Pot.

None of these leftist mobs in the US come for discussion, they come only for violence.

 

Then why is Trump and the GOP not doing anything to stop it?

 

How does he stop the Democrat party endorsing their mouth frothing followers to violence?

The POTUS is calling it out, as others are doing.

It's up to the individual voter if they're going to accept Trump's vision for America, or Democrats like Clinton's "no civility until we regain power" vision.

 

The DNC did not endorse violence for mobs..

 

Attacking the messenger is even more intellectually lazy that blanket condemnations of those you disagree with without relying on facts. You do not dispute the fact I listed and ignore my statement that ALL violent political protests are wrong. Please explain which part of my statement is a lie I promoted.

 

Who is it?

 

Sure.



Did you forget the attacks on Sanders offices?

The bar brawl that happened in the DNC meeting?

Tim Kaine's son getting arrested as an antifa member?

Waters and others constant calls to violence?

Pelosi telling us how a "wrap up smear" is executed?

Give me a break.

 

Yep. Newton's Third Law applies.

 

My point was that the mobs of the Russian revolution, the mobs of Pol Pot, the mobs of Mao, the mobs of the Brown shirts.....and the mobs of the Democrats are one and the same.

They have the same goal.

 

EVERYONE dislikes violent actions.

But dems and the lying liberal media are promoting it.

I became a Trump supporter during the 2016 PRIMARIES when Chicago thugs kept Trump from his freedom of assembly and free speech rights. That happened many times during the 2016 election, and the media ignored most of it.

Connect the dots. How many Trump and republican supporters do you think are being created again after dems lost their PHONY bid to stop the Kavanaugh confirmation, and then resorted to mob actions?

Dems want POWER, and they don't get power with mob actions.

Steve

 

It's kind of silly seeing a bunch of white people complaining about racism of white people to Black people that don't agree.

 

Actually mob violence is a tool that the left has used to great effect all through history. They know that.

What it requires though is overwhelming numbers and state support.

This is why the people in Venezuela lost to Maduro's mobs. The state disarmed the people and gave those arms to the leftist mobs. They supported the leftist mob with government troops.

This is why the left wants the reins of government power, and wants all US citizens to be dependent on the government for their welfare.

Attacks on the 2A, the 1A, creating a welfare state, and government control over our healthcare are the tools they want to use to take our freedom from us.

Let them come and take it.

 

You're correct. I also recall the 1968 DNC convention in Chicago, and how dems and media managed to make it a republican problem and not a dem problem.

We still see people today that still believe republicans were responsible for the Vietnam situation, but it was Kennedy, and Johnson escalated it.

When will dems ever get a clue?

Steve

 

Dems want POWER, and they don't get power with mob actions.

Nor should conservatives. I know, why don't we vote on who gets power.

 

No, SPLC is a known, documented LW propaganda outlet, also a front for the plaintiff's bar seeking to poison juries and reap windfall settlements and jury verdicts against political opposition. This is what it has always been, and it took the ascendance of the net and alternate media to expose them for what they are. They are not and never have been a credible source. They are being sued successfully and multiply for their defamatory tactics, and IMO their days are numbered. Mostly today, they are a PHONE BANK that gins up millions of donations from left-leaning suckers by grossly exaggerating the incidence of "hate groups" in the country.

One of the LW's favorite tricks is labeling -all- political opposition and everything they say "hate speech," "racist," and universally "far right." It's difficult to find ANY simply nonleft or antileft group, which is more accurately what Proud Boys is, that is merely labeled "RW" or a "Conservative group" as opposed to "far right," "alt right," "white supremacist." Anything they say or do is then exaggerated into racist "dog whistling" in the most obvious, puerile ways, leading to PR disasters like the HRC campaign including a diatribe against a cartoon frog as "white supremacy" on her official website and the fake "OK sign-thumbs up" common hand gestures as white supremacist dog whistles. A nonleft politician waves to the crowd after a speech, say Laura Ingraham at the GOP convention, and then a single still is used to say she is dog whistling the crowd with the "Heil" sign. Absurd and counterproductive other than to the most feeble, infantile minds.

In NYC, a LW group took credit for vandalism of a RW, not a "far" RW club. They then purposefully showed up again and assaulted an ANTI-LEFT group, not a "far right" group, and got their asses beat. ANTIFA were arrested and no one from the anti left group was arrested. Those are the plain facts. Everything else is LW sewer pipe spin.

The most obvious, latest repetitively mislabeled example of this type of mass lie/moral panic journalism was in Charlottesville, where a -handful- of real white supremacists (who could have been astroturf for all anyone knows) joined history buffs, CW reenactors of both sides, and just normal people who had family in the CW who objected to removal of local history and heritage. There's nothing wrong with that, and THOSE people were the basis for Trump's comment "good people on each side." There were good, normal people on each side, yet slimy MSM and the LW sewer pipe to this day call C-ville a "white supremacist rally" dishonestly and purposefully, and take Trump out of context as saying the equivalent of "white supremacists are good people." So transparent, and so stupid, and that average Americans see through it is a big reason the Democrats, with a vast numerical superiority, have a hard time winning elections, lose and continue losing.

 

The American PEOPLE have spoken LOUDLY SINCE 2010. Dems have lost well over 1000+ seats across the board SINCE 2010, at local, state, and federal levels of power.

That CLEARLY shows dems have a MAJOR problem with the American PEOPLE, because they refuse to change SINCE 2010. In fact, they've moved further left after passing Obamacare without a single vote from a republican.

After the 2018 election, if dems don't change their leadership and policies, then Trump has the 2020 election path already laid out for him.

Steve

 

Not this lie again. LOL

 

When face with facts deflect. You won’t denounce their violence just like Antifa. Pathetic.

 

Like I have said dozens of times, read the Time Magazine article and weep for dems. I know you wouldn't accept conservative media sources, but you won't even accept MSM either because it destroys the current dems leadership.

 

Its a very nice picture of a magazine....but that's all. LOL

 

BS! read ALL my posts.

Steve

 

There was a time that I thought conservatives were just those with a different point of view. However, I'm starting to see that conservatives are nothing like me. Their ideology isn't just an alternative, just the ignorant rantings of inferior people. Fake News, how would you know? Everything coming out of FOX is fake news, everything that comes out of tRump's ugly mouth is a lie.