Who has more chances to avoid the Hell: a Gay who believe in God or an Atheist?

I'm a Christian.
I do not believe in hell.

 

According to all of the street corner bums who used to try to "save me" as a kid, faith is the key. The gay goes to heaven and the atheist doesn't if you believe that stuff. I've seen enough of those believers to know that wherever they go, I don't want to go.

 

I guess you have never read the Holy Bible.

 

Actually I have. More often and more times than you. I've also studied it's origins, histories and so on in much greater depth. And do you know what that means?
My beliefs are no more valid than yours. Or vice versa.

You take a small amount of The Bible literally.
You just plain throw some of it out because it's inconvenient and doesn't really apply anymore (actually a LOT more than you know, was thrown out for you by other people).
The rest you interpret in a way the you like.

Just like all Christians.
Including me.

 

You need a couple more choices!
For example: A hyper religious Christian who insults God by believing that man made dogmas that encourage hatred and bigotry of his brothers and sisters in God!

 

There is no such thing as hell. So neither.

 

I imagine he has, and just has a different interpretation of it than you.

 

A Christian homosexual. I am a Christian minister and can find nowhere Jesus condemned homosexuality in his ministry. I am not so sure if homosexuality is a choice or if one is born Gay, I lean towards the latter which is another reason Christians should not shun our brothers and sisters. Yes, I know that feeling is a vestige of prior non-acceptance of gays. Additional I have to admit that as a straight southern male I am still uncomfortable with men showing sexual affection to each, in public of course. If I were speaking what about private stuff I might have some xplainin' to do... still I have to be honest. Personally I dont know what Jesus would do, I can not help to think if homosexuality is not a choice he would be blind it and other consensual sexual situations.

reva

 

If i understood the myth correctly his words were "love your enemy" i don't think that people with the capacity to love their enemies will be judgemental to others because of the way they have sex.

 

So what do you say to the fact Jesus said to uphold Mosaic law, which itself contains a direct passage ordering the execution of active homosexuals?

 

There is no evidence that God or Heaven exists (although I am prepared to be less definitive about the former,) but Hell certainly seems to. It is here and now, and consists of coming across posts by a certain mega-conservative, condemnatory and self-important, religiously maniacal, East German, with a very tenuous grasp of both humanity and the English language.

 

Answer is pretty simple:

Homosexuals have "more chance" to avoid hell. => Hate the sin, not the sinner. In a Christian perspective, homosexuals can ask forgiveness for their sins.

The question, however, is completely unnecessary as far as I'm concerned. "Straight people" are no better than "homosexuals". It is not a "vital" aspect.

The OP is suggesting it is: a serial-killer, who is straight ought to have a greater chance to reach heaven than a homosexual who volunteers at the old-people-house. That is, what it seems, he's saying. Utterly bonkers, obviously.

 

@Leo

=> LMAO!

Thanks for your post, I enjoyed it. Last post of the day I'm going to read... going to have a smoke and going to bed...

 

You are exactly the kind of man that makes me remember why I love the Southern USA so much.

I wholeheartedly wish you all the best...

Wow ~ this is a heavy thread for sure. I'm overwhelmed with joy right now! And no, I'm not on drugs ~ just over-worked. Sorry -- but seriously: what economic crisis, are you kidding me? Can't pull that one on me anymore for sure...

 

All Christians throw out stuff in the Bible they find inconvenient, take some stuff literally and interpret the rest in the way their heart (or someone else) tells them to. No Christian follows all the laws Jesus referred to in the passage you reference.

 

And as nonsensical as that is, its lucky they do because if they didnt we'd have some SERIOUS problems.

 

The implied starting premise of this poll is that of Christianity. If you look at the doctrines of the faith, homosexuality is a no-no but belief in God is basic and the forgiveness of sins is central. Thus the atheist has NO chance of entering into heaven because he never accepts God (via the Holy Spirit) while the homosexual does have some chance of God's forgiveness as long as he or she is a believer.

 

Actually believing in God doesn't merit you anything In Christianity. AS it says in James all the devils in hell believe in God and tremble in fear. The trick is to believe God which if he did he would immediately repent of homosexuality.

 

Really? What about you? Did you begin to believe God at some point? What does "repent" mean? Did you repent of all your sin when you began to "believe God"?

 

That's quite a bit to infer from the OP. I don't see how it follows.

 

Heaven, sir, is invitation only and repentance a daily occurence for any Christian who is half way honest with himself about himself. God has to act inorder for someone to not got to hell. Hell is mankind's natural end. It took and still takes devine intervention to prevent it.

That is after all the whole point of the scripture were. It is by grace you are saved, through faith and that not of yourself it is the gift of God,... I am saved, if indeed I am, solely because God chose, for his own reasons, to write my name in the Book of Life ere he ever said let their be light.