Who says that Russia is our enemy, --and why are they saying it?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Merwen, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The great General Patton was right then, and they should have let him run their commie asses back to Moscow in '45. Thee generations of East Germans, Hungarians, Czeks, Poles and Romanians had to live under the thumb of mass murderer Stalin and subsequent scumbags...Now Trump is buddying up with scumbag Putin who is a de facto Mafia Don with access to the second largest nuclear arsenal on earth. What could possibly go wrong? Trump no doubt admires Putin for his ability to just kill any media person who exposes his lies and thievery. If Trump had his way, he would have all reporters and cable news hacks shut down or killed too, except for ass lickers like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You were doing so good until you got to this.

    So I'm unable to give you 1/2 of a like.

    Every day something new surfaces and it's starting to look like there was a conspiracy to entrap Donald Trump that he was in collusion with the Russians.

    Now we are finding out that Hillary and the DNC had more contacts with Russians than Trump and the Obama administration are starting to smell like a toilet in Tijuana.
     
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  3. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not doubt that Putin and his international band of super criminals are using Trump to expand their enterprises. However it would not surprise me if a greedy megalomaniac like Trump is involved in collusion. His whole group excluding General Mattis and a few others already smell like a toilet in Vladavastog. I think you are overestimating this Trump guy. You need to try to free yourself from this simplistic: 'Democrat bad, Republican good' world view. Both parties are full of scumbags and Trump has no loyalty to either one of them or this country. He is a greedy lying whore and always has been one. Wake up my man.
     
  4. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you personally know Donald Trump ?

    I don't, never met the guy.

    But I have two friends who know the real Donald Trump.

    So I wasn't surprised last week when Vladimir Putin was being interviewed and when asked about President Trump he said exactly what my two friends said... The Donald Trump you see in front of a camera isn't the same Donald Trump when he's not in front of the camera.
     
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    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    I hope they use KY!
     
  6. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have several friends and bussiness associates who have been cheated by Trump's companies in Atlantic City, Jersey City and NYC. He is known there as Donny no pay. He has thousands of pending lawsuits regarding cheating hard working contractors out of their money. The record is clear. I have also heard that like Don King and Bill Clinton, (both friends of Trump) that he is very charming in person if you are invited to an event where he happens to be. He comes off a lot like King in that he is definitely a world class con artist. It is well known that Putin is in league with Russian international mafiosos that make the old Gambino Family look like a bunch of punk kids in a street gang. Putin has access to more cash than Trump could even imagine getting his hands on. Trump is totally obsessed with being filthy rich and I would guess that Putin is his idol and Trump feels that he might be able to get his hands on a couple hundred billion by hanging out with him and making some deals. I think it is a good thing that the press is putting him under a michroscope as it pertains to his dealings with Russia and Putin. Better safe than sorry.
     
  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a friend who was a sub contractor (electrical) who worked on one of Trump's projects in California.

    What I hear Trump is a perfectionist and he knows the trades and would make a NYC or LA building inspector blush.

    Shoddy workmanship...you ain't getting paid. Using cheap materials...you ain't getting paid.

    Don't know how the mechanic liens work in NJ and NY but in California smart contractors protect themselves.
     
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    You seem to have the same standards of expectation of decency from your friends as Dennis Rodman.

    You don't get to DECIDE Saddam Hussein is a good guy, and you will do stuff with him. In fact, that is what is going to GET TRUMP. He colluded with PLENTY of bad guys. And the law says, YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU must do due diligence, to VETT your business associates, or YOU will be IMPRISONED. YOU don't get to DEEM bad guys good, or YOU GO TO PRISON.


    PS, I met John Bull's son, John Bull worked with Saddam, and he WENT TO PRISON for it.
     
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  9. Merwen

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    Does this mean Hil and the O will go to prison for arming people who eventually joined ISIS?
     
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  10. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't shoot all your ammunition in one blam. You must learn patience grasshopper.
     
  11. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    That was hardly all.
     
  12. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree with you about Trump. You seem to have been hoodwinked by this guy. He does not fool me for a second. He did pull off the absolute biggest upset in US political history and he definitely can not be underestimated, but in opinion, he is a greedy little prick who would sell us out in a heartbeat if he thought he could get his mitts on a couple hundred billion. Putin is a dangerous criminal in my book who will do anything including mass murder to stay in power. The fact that both branches of the US Congress, the DOJ and the entire media are putting these two birds under a white hot spotlight is a good thing as far as I am concerned. Cheers
     
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    Hostile, spoken like a true neocon parrot
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    More neocon, globalist, dollar hegemony bullshit.
     
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    Why stop with Russia? China are bad dudes too. We should go to war against them as well. Then there's Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the rest of the Arab countries. North Korea and Iran oppose us. Cuba and Venezuela shouldn't be forgotten either. Heck, let's just go to war against anyone we don't like.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its insane to think they are our friend.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia smiles and grins every time there is a terror attack in The West.

    that is surely not a friend.

    they smile and grin every time anything goes wrong with a Western economy.
     
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    And you smile and grin whenever there is a terror attack in Russia.
     
  19. Steady Pie

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    Please don't post the list of things the US or EU have done out of respect for PF's bandwidth.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, i mourn for them.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    whenever there is a terror attack or economic crisis in The West, Russia says:

    "hahaha!! failure of the Western system. good for them".
     
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    Then why did the Democrats and Obama rip on Romney so bad?

    That is why I can't take your party seriously, while both parties lie I feel like the D's are flat out just making up whatever story they can
     
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    I think this is the very foundation of the issue. Capitalists (generally speaking, The Right) embrace 'the grand contest of liberty' and appreciate a good (skilled but fair) competitor, even (or especially) when that competitor beats them. Its a challenge to rise to.

    Collectivists (generally speaking, The Left) see competition as wasteful, uncooperative, threatening, an enemy. Its an impedence to progress.

    So Russia is both, because both are the same, just perceived differently from our increasingly ideologically divided population.
     
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    After 5 pages of responses I expect someone has said this by now, but the reason Russia is the world's number one badass is because every country needs a badass so that 1) its senior military jobsworths can justify their existence, 2) appear to be indispensable by constantly updating infrastructure procurement, and by so doing 3) hold on to their jobs-for-life. Bit like NASA when y'think about it?? :mrgreen:
     
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    You like to make up claims a lot. Russia and the USA have worked together often in regards to potential terrorist plots and Russia has warned us many times about plots and individuals.

    Russia and the USA both have a shared interest in the dangers and terrorism of radical Islamic terrorism.
     

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