Who's More Dangerous to America? Leftists, Gays or Muslims?

I disagree with your entire premise. The rise of secularism in Europe and Russia has taken civilization backwards, not forward. A Christian society, where people had a strong faith in God, would not have cooperated in the atrocities of Nazi Germany or Communist Russia. If people in Germany and Russia hadn't lost their faith in God, World War II would never have happened.

 

The people of early 20th century Germany and the Soviet Union didn't lose their faith, it was eradicated by the state.

 

Hmmm. Tough choice. I'd have to say whackjob Conservatives. Not all Conservatives, mind you. I have a lot of Conservative friends back in Houston who are intelligent, well-educated and very sophisticated.
I'm talking more about eh sleeveless, NASCAR "Gomers" who tend to stereotypes enitre groups based on political leaning, sexual orientation, religion and race. You know, the ignorant whackjob types.

 

LOL! Hitler used his Christian faith as a means to promote the hatred of another faith and blame them for the potential destruction of his country. You know, that way all extremist whackjobs do...

 

Who's most dangerous to America?

Easy! People who think:

Such unimaginative and simple folk like Blackrook have drunk the Kool Aid.

Your rightwing talk show hosts hold up each of these demons in turn and you get up on your hind legs and bark just like Pavlovs dogs.

I have gay friends, all they want is to be left alone and not singled out by anyone.

Muslims? I live in Australia where the biggest Muslim nation in the world is on our doorstep. Do they give us any problems? Nope. They are mostly easy going folk and its a great tourist destination.

"Leftists"? All they want is prosperity and happiness for all - "win/win" instead of the "win/lose" mentality that infects, and is destroying, America.

 

LOL. Do you remember that the Pope of that moment gave supported to the Nazi regime?

Do you remember that the Catholicism supported to the dictator, Franco that overtrhew a democracy in Spain, and thanks to that Spain went 40 years back?

Do you remember that we entered in the dark ages after the Roman Empire took the Christianism as main religion?

No, religion is so intrusive that we go backwards.

Religion and mainly Abrahamic religions are against progress. And when we progressed is when we left apart the religion.

And religions don't fight? Don't make war? That is a nonsense of argument. First at all, do you remember the God has said me that I must invade Iraq?

We are now better than ever, Europe has more freedom than ever, however not all the freedom that I would like, thanks to our secularism. Europe is everyday less religious.

 

???? I think that you miss the point of what is a leftist. You can't say that you don't trust leftists just for the attitudes of a few stupid people, because that you're saying I consider that is nonsense and that they should not care about that.

You can't generalize to them with that, and more because that even are things that are not necessarily leftist.

 

Illegals & Cartel Henchmen & their Families

 

This thread is awash with partisan hacks, predictably.

 

i notice you are in Finland, the leftists i speak of are the ones of the USA. i dont really know how lefties in Europe and such do things so i cant speak on that. they are probably alot better over there im sure, doesnt take much to best a lefty from the good ole' USA.

im betting even righties are alot different over where you are as well.

 

Yes. That is the ONLY way people's rights will be protected.

 

Comparing apples and oranges. The biggest problem are people that are politically labeled ('liberal', 'socialist', 'green') or put themselves in a political box, locked to vote on 'their' (by the system) labeled candidate. The system have brought you in line (we are the robots)

 

Biggest danger to America.

None of the above.. It is:

Ignorance!

 

Christian Zionists and Scofield heretics.

 

Since I know and understand who you'd label as "extremist", you'd have an extremely difficult time avoiding calling many of our Founding Fathers the same.

Which frames the absurdity of your entire position quite nicely.

 

I'd say none of the above..it's more like the pizza delivery guy..you just never know about them..

 

Wisdom....

 

QFT.

The most dangerous thing is the movement of people to the extreme Right. From their eyes, all the way out there the centre looks like the extreme Left.

They spend this time accusing everyone else of all manner of things and have no ability to inwardly reflect.

 

Ridiculous! Hitler's "srong faith in God and the Catholic Church" was a big drive (or at the least was used asan excuse and a cover) for the atrocitiess.

And the highest levels in the Catholic Church's hierarchy were, if not complices, at least complacent to the rise of Nazism.

 

The most dangerous thing is the movement of people to the extreme Left. From their eyes, all the way out there the centre looks like the extreme Right.

They spend this time accusing everyone else of all manner of things and have no ability to inwardly reflect.

 

The irony of you using that "word" in that statement is too much for me!

 

This qualifies as "education" in your mind? Sweet jesus, I revise my assessment of the largest threat to the USA.

The largest threat to the USA is the EDUCATION SYSTEM. And you post is the proof.

 

So you're worried about "gay muzzies?"

I don't know about "gays" among "muzzies" but I do know there's one idiot bigot among your friends.

 

The OP is a glaring example of the clear and present danger posed by demagoguery here within the US. One can only wonder how long before some members of this forum begin to openly advocate for pogroms against the minority du jour. Pretty frightening really....

 

The most dangerous thing to human society in general is ideology. Any ideology. Ideology is not about any particular set of ideas, it's a way of thinking about ideas. The notion that believing the right thing makes you a good person is pernicious. Thinking you have all the answers is always dangerous to begin with. And to then compound that with confusing being morally right with being factually right just makes it that much worse. They are two distinct things - you can be right in one sense and wrong in the other. And being factually right does not make you morally superior, nor does being factually wrong diminish you in any way.

The real problem with ideologies is that ultimately, they all wind up coming down to the same thing. We're Right, everyone else is Wrong, and therefore we are better then everyone else. And it is a frighteningly small step from that to adding, "...and therefore anything we do to everyone else is automatically morally justified." Just look at history. Fascism and Communism are ideologies based in diametrically opposed ideas. And yet, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia wound up being very much alike. Theocracies almost invariably wind up the same way. Or consider the French Revolution, where even the ideology of freedom and democracy wound up giving us the Reign of Terror and the Napoleonic Wars.

You always have to keep in mind that we are all human, and all fallible. That means that any set of ideas we come up with will always turn out to be inaccurate or incomplete in some way. The universe is simply too vast, too complex, and too unpredictable to ever be crammed into a human skull. You have to start out thinking that you're always wrong in some way, and to be constantly on the look out for new information and new ways of thinking, and for flaws in your old information and old ways of thinking. And most essentially, you need to be always double checking your answers against the real world. Ultimately, it's the real world that is the final arbiter of how right or wrong we all are.

I know what a Christian Zionist is, but when I tried asking Wikipedia what a Scofield heretic is, I suffered serious MEGO from all the Christian technobabble. Would you mind explaining what that is in terms this poor, confused pagan can understand?