I guess the problems within the gay community isn't your concern as long as you yourself don't partake. Exactly what I'm talking about. A person who cares would be standing against it. So far....what I've heard is head in the sand type stuff here.
Politically correct or not, from the medical point of view, it is possible that homosexuality is a consequence of pre-existing mental abnormality, that develops before or after birth.
Odd interpretation of his phrase "subject to more than their fair share". I think what youre after here is suppression of any FACTS that might reflect badly upon homosexuals. Kind of like California schools.
Well, they sure have mastered finding sexual partners. Maybe they arent looking for romance, and instead are looking for sex. Friend of mine, hetero his entire life, married with kids. Got a divorce and after a couple of years in the hetero dating scene without any success, he is now gay. Says he gets laid all the time now, without all the emotional entanglements of heterosexual sex.
Maybe your comment above is just STUPID and instead it should make real sense. (But I don't expect that.) What you're saying is filthy and disgusting.
"They"... Lol!!! If gay people were just looking for sex SSM wouldn't even be an issue. The buck would have stopped at Lawrence.
A person who cares would be looking for solutions - not pontificating about it in Internet forums. Don't think I'm fooled for one moment that you actually care about the gay community. Laughable, that notion.
Whereas you're all about the demonization of homosexuals with distortions you present as "facts". I'm not taking your bait about California. You want to talk about that, go start a new topic.
The first step is to acknowledge the problems. If you can't do that...then you don't care either. Except for just your pride.
There are problems with every community, however some peoples attempts at vilifying all gays is just see through.
Countries that have had SSM for years are seeing ONE HALF of ONE % of all marriages as same sex marriage. They arent exactly rushing in to participate in the institution. Divorce rates are already starting to be higher for SSM. The couple who first established their right to marry in Mass. were split up within a couple years.
Well, they were Jeffs facts and their wasnt any distortions. Just distorted perceptions on your part. Nothing to talk about. Just pointing out how you want to mirror calif school policy.
I acknowledge the very real problems - just not the made-up version of them that anti-gay people love to propagandize around.
Citation? One couple, and no doubt you can find others. It's disappointing, but not evidence supporting your allegation that the divorce rates are higher. That said, I would fully expect them to be higher at this juncture. Same-sex couples don't necessarily have the same social support systems that many opposite-sex couples do. Many of us are estranged from our families and may have smaller social circles.
Let's not pretend that you haven't posted your own interpretation of those facts in the thread. Several people have pointed out the distortions you engaged in. That you don't acknowledge them to be distortions is no surprise at all. I feel the same about your distorted perceptions. Nevermind that what you said isn't the policy, nor my position. You can "point out" whatever you like, but that doesn't mean we have to buy it as truthful.
I dont think Jeff is anti gay and- I dont see anything made up. Just facts you cant bring yourself to aknowledge. Thats why we have 62% of HIV cases among men who have sex with men. Too many gays cant aknowledge the increased risk and so do nothing to protect against it.
No, I just post the facts, and ANY such facts, you interpret as reflecting poorly upon homosexuals, and we get the same hysterics we see in your reaction to Jeff doing so. We would expect nothing less from you.
And many same sex couples marry in a pathetic attempt to ape their heterosexual counterparts, in a desparate attempt to gain respect from society and dignity for themselves. Not the kind of thing successful marriages are built upon
Pretending to understand the varied and complex motivations of same-sex couples who choose to marry doesn't make you an expert. I think it's pretty clear what it does make you.
You can pretend that your so-called interpretation of the "facts" isn't in dispute all you like. Meanwhile we have how many pages now of evidence to contrary? I'm not engaging in hysterics, but then I've learned that personal attacks pretty much come with the territory of engaging you. As to what you or anyone else would expect from me, that just speaks to your own bias.
As I said to another poster somewhere earlier today: I acknowledge the very real problems, but not the made-up ones that bigots use to demonize and propagandize against gay people. Thin ice, trying to imply that I'm in denial and not protecting myself. Now, if you have something new to say on topic, instead of attacking me, perhaps there will be something to discuss. Otherwise I might as well go back to ignoring you.
???? Zero. You people havent even contradicted jeff's assertions. Just hysterical anger at him for making them.
Nope, like Jeff's, very real problems, you cant aknowledge, and can instead only rant to in response. Weren't you the one that denied my assertion that 62% of the HIV cases in the US are among men who have sex with men, for about a week on the forum, in the past. ? I said "too many gays". Revealing that you felt you were in that group.
