Why are there so many mass shootings

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  1. Mac-7

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    Not knowing conditions in europe your argument does not relate to America
     
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    Because guns are the ultimate guarantee against a government becoming tyrannical. It may take decades or centuries, but any nation where a populace is unarmed is doomed to have a tyrannical government eventually.
     
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    If you lived in the US, would you get a gun and start shooting people?
     
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    Atheists are the craziest ones given the opportunity.Stalin and Mao sent almost 100 million people to death.I am not even going to merntion their educational camps and torture.
     
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    You could buy a gun via magazine with a check in 1955...

    So guns clearly arent the problem.
     
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    Demographics of those countries?

    Let me guess...
     
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    To be honest......I would rather not live there in fear, like you'll must, or ought do.
     
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    Dumb question.
     
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    It is not. It is the most pertinent question on this topic.
     
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    What have I to fear? Be specific.
     
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    Explain why please.
     
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    Oh....maybe doing some idle thing like going to a concert, or maybe Walmart and getting mown down with your family. Something like that. It will happen anytime, 'coming soon to a cinema near you.' It is just a matter of when. I know you will not believe that, because you are not one of the potential victims, having convinced yourself that it will never happen to you or yours.
     
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    But according to your argument that shouldn’t matter. You claimed the issue is about decline in Christian faith and fatherless homes. Both of those exist in many other countries yet they don’t have the mass shooting problem the US has.
    And again, you’ve yet to explain why not having a father causes someone to commit mass murder.
     
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    Ah...changing the argument. Not surprising
     
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    I read that book well over 40 years ago. While he did criticized Christianity, he viewed his ethnic group as divine and above all others. Further, he spared no effort to turn the churches into his allies and they happily assisted him in his evil deeds.
     
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    yes it does - Queen Victoria, King Leopold, Stalin, Hitler = all Christians just like the Americans who committed genocide against Native Americans and spread slavery

    no other religion in history killed more people than has Christianity - that is fact whether you choose to believe it or not
     
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    Stalin was a Christian and was given a Christian burial
     
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    I claimed that the decline of CHRISTIAN RELIGION IN AMERICA and decline in morality has contributed to the mass shootings we have today

    The euros are not the same as Americans and we should not compare the two

    As I keep asking the lib deniers, if you dont like my answer to why, what is your explanation?

    Thats a question libs continue to avoid
     
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    Its not as simple as no father leads to mass murder

    Because most boys without fathers adjust to their handicap or suffer in silence

    But it creates a void in some who grow up not knowing what the proper role of a man should be

    A void that can be filled with murderous rage toward others
     
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    Uh no Lutherans in particular took a rather dim view of Herr Hitler and his death camps there was a German Resistance to Hitler and much of it was Christian inspired read up on Dietrich Bonhoeffer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler.
     
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    But why would those things ONLY affect Americans? Your claim defies logic.
    You continue to avoid my questions. So there’s that.
     
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    It’s probably less likely where I live than where you live. And there are more guns around here than you can count. I’m in a combination of a few of the most dangerous occupations there are. My odds of dying a nasty death are greater than most people. Yet....no fear. Fear of mass shooters is irrational. That’s a fact.
     
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    You can’t really believe any of that BS. My lord haha. Not having a father is a handicap???
    How is it other boys can grow up without a father and not kill???
     
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    you need to read just a bit more Lutheran history as Hitler used Luther's writings to "justify" his evils against Jews with the ready support of that church's membership
     

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