Why Can't The Pope Be A Woman?

Christ chose men to be his disciples. If I went against Holy Tradition, wouldn't I be in a state of rebellion. Isn't that what Lucifer did?

 

I wouldn't say though that it's Paul's wisdom. I would say it was the enlightenment given to Paul by the Holy Spirit.

 

Do you have a right to tell them what they're allowed to do?

You're not even Catholic.

You sound wacky and ridiculous.

You just can't stand some other people made a club with rules that you feel are unfair.

What's next? Claim the whole idea of a pope isn't democratic enough? Agitate for change for direct election of the pope by Catholics? Keep complaining about that?
Maybe the Catholic Church shouldn't give an inch, because I suspect even if they did that you'd keep complaining.

You just sound extremely extremely entitled here.
You're trying to force you ideals upon another group that has nothing to do with you, and will not really affect you in any way.

The Communists felt they couldn't leave religion alone and had to control it too. I hope you're capable of seeing the connection here.

 

Ordaining women would break the chain of Apostolic succession. (I expect some atheist will be along to tell me how wrong I am.)

 

In an extremely theoretic sense (I think) it is hypothetically possible that a woman could be elected pope even though she was not ordained as a priest (and that might not be completely absolutely necessarily incompatible with Catholic religious teaching) but it would be extremely awkward. Popes are almost always drawn from priests who have risen in the ranks with decades of experience. There would also be the big issue of combining genders in the same setting. Traditionally Catholics would be opposed to that in the hierarchy because it would be seen as spiritually distracting. (For example, nuns and monks live separately apart)

 

The Vatican is actually a state, just for your information.

You are correct, no one (outside the Vatican) has to listen to the pope if they don't want to. You are not being forced to be a Catholic.

Why then does this seem to bother you so much?

 

Flower arranging...
You're just being ridiculous here.
Many women like flower arranging.

And being an accountant is not "slavery".
Gee, first you demand higher level positions of responsibility for women, and then you complain about it and call it "drudgery".

By the way, you probably don't know this but all of the janitors in the Catholic Church will be the same gender as the people they're cleaning up after.
They don't have female janitors in mostly male areas of the Catholic Church.

 

Just face it, women are not cut out to be priests.

There are many other roles for them though.
(Pope Francis even appointed a woman to be in charge of all the Vatican's finances)

It's just stupidity to see you trying to inject feminism into religion.

 

Actually, a lot of guys aren't cut out to be priests, either, but I don't see him complaining about that.

 

Why not?
What special thing do men have that women don't have..??


oh ya THE penis they rape with....GEE, that must make them much better humans than mere women(according to you and the Catholic Church)

 

A penis.

But that still doesn't excuse the catholic church.

 

Catholic explanation here:
The Priest is the Sacrament of Christ the Bridegroom - University of Saint Mary of the Lake/Mundelein Seminary (usml.edu)

Short summary: Essentially a priest acts as a substitute representing Christ to his church. There is some important analogy there. The Church is seen as "the bride".
So the issue of gender is emblematic of different roles.

I could go further into explaining the different gender roles, but you would probably just deny that inherent reality exists or call it "sexist".

 

Are you defending the right to exclude women from being the Pope?
I am entitled since I'm a human being, never forget how entitled we are.

 

I'm saying they have some good reasons.

 

There are no good reasons, only reasons.

 

Do you think Catholics are going to bend to current modern trends in society?

 

I think they should.

Remember, the history of humanity never had me until I was born, but that changed, why should I let the church off the hook?
History now has me, deal with it.

 

Are you a Catholic?

Just hypothetically speaking, any chance you would go back if they did make the next pope a woman? (I didn't think so)

 

Why would you protest a voluntary organization not willing to make a woman their leader?
Why do you have a problem with a woman not being able to be that leader, but seem not to have a problem with the structure of that leadership being so hierarchical and undemocratic?

Does it have to do with the difference between the concepts of "equality" and "equality of opportunity"?

 

Cancel culture.
It's not woke.

It's both sexist and wrong.

 

What makes it wrong?
Why does this aspect of the leadership, about gender, make you so concerned, and not other aspects of the leadership?

(i.e. the whole idea of a pope to begin with could be completely unfair, but you don't care, as long as a woman has an equal chance of getting to become pope)

 

My first love was catholic, I've got good friends who are catholic.
I've had many catholic friends now that I think about it, but I was raised part atheist under a protestant domination called Congregational where I was christened, not baptised. If I went back to Church, it would be to the Congregational one I left when I was a child.
But so what?
Does that make it any less wrong that women can't be Popes?

 

It's not that Women aren't Popes, it's that Women can't be Popes - what part of that concept do you think we should tolerate today?

 

Would you stop complaining if women had a 1% chance of becoming pope?