Why Can't The Pope Be A Woman?

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to start a new religion where women can be the pope of that new religion, you are welcome to.

    Though I wouldn't advise it, and it would probably be very silly.
     
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    I'd stop complaining when women have every chance of being Pope as the next Cardinal.
     
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    That doesn't fix the problem.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the problem? Why is there a problem?
    How does it impact you??
     
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    Because it's sexist and it's wrong.
     
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    So you want to go crusading around the world, righting every wrong?

    Or only certain types of wrongs concerning issues you happen to feel emotional about?

    If you actually want to work on trying to right terrible problems in the world that actually matter, I can give you a long list.
    Some terrible stuff happens to women in Middle Eastern countries.
     
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    It seems you are trying to impose your subjective values onto another group of people with different beliefs.

    They probably believe some things about how you live your life too.
     
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    What does this have to do with women not being able to be Popes?
    I'd rather concentrate on this, rather than allow you to protect this institution by advising me to pick another battle, no, I'm fine bringing attention to this blatant sexism.

    As for persecuted Muslims, just go to France, as for persecuted Women, just go to Poland.
    (The whole backwards European ideology making the EU full of backward cultures devoid of rights for women or minorities).
    This doesn't stop Men only allowed to be Popes though, does it.
     
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    I don't understand why that's such an issue for you.

    We are only talking about one person out of the entire world.
     
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    Yes, there is "blatant sexism" (as you call it) in the Bible, religion, and the Catholic Church. Who exactly do want to bring this to the attention of?
    Catholics? Non-Catholics? Your own little Social Justice circle of feminists?

    Do you think that change could be convenient and compatible with Christian, and more specifically Catholic belief?
    (I mean, suppose their religious beliefs flat out made it absolutely clear that women could not be popes, then it would be kind of pointless to try to convince them to change that one thing)
     
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    Only?
    If it's a matter of only, then why must you protest?
    I however feel it's not 'only' but in fact 'entirely' and 'important', especially in this new era we find ourselves in in the woke social justice movement - Why should the Catholic Church be allowed to continue its blatant sexist policies of not allowing people to become Pope because of their gender?
     
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    There is no good reason why a woman can't be Pope.
     
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    correction: YOU find yourself in that movement

    Many others do not.

    I don't know what you've been reading.


    If Catholics started trying to abide by the "woke social justice movement" they would find that half of everything they believe is deemed "politically incorrect".
     
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    I've already stated to you that theoretically (in an entirely theoretic sense) a woman could be a pope, but it would be very inconvenient and not pragmatic, as women cannot be priests.
    So in reality, it's very unlikely to happen.
     
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    I don't know why a woman needs to care that someone of her same gender cannot fill a certain leadership position.


    I mean, imagine I was in a big organization where only left-handed individuals could become the leader of that organization. But it doesn't matter to me, I have no chance of becoming that leader, whether I was right or left handed.
     
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    · Why Can't The Pope Be A Woman ?

    ~❓ Maybe he is ... :confuse:´
     
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    There's no good reason why a woman SHOULD be Pope.

    I've already told you that it would break the chain of succession from Christ's time to today.

    The Archbishop of TEC in America was a woman for years, she all but destroyed the Episcopal Church, because she thought it gave her power, she didn't understand the reason for leadership in the Church. That was why she failed. Now they have a leftist twit as Archbishop, he's finishing off the Episcopal Church in America.

    Women don't want to be priests, they want to be men. It's penis envy, plain and simple.
     
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    This "new era" sucks, and it's getting worse every day.
     
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    ~ This is true - and more obvious with each passing day . :no:
     
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    And some people are hell bent on making it even worse.
     
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    The exclusion of women in the church goes back to Jewish tradition and believing women were impure. Being raised Eastern Orthodox, these were also the reasons given to us as to why women were not permitted to be priests, deacons, serve at the alter or receive communion during the menstruation cycle.

    http://www.womencanbepriests.org/traditio/unclean.asp

    In the past many Fathers, canon lawyers, theologians and Church leaders were of the opinion that women could not be ordained priests because their monthly periods made them ‘ritually unclean’.
    If women were not allowed to approach the altar, touch altar linen or sacred vessels, could not enter a church during menstruation or after childbirth, and so on, how could they imagine women presiding over the Eucharist at the altar?
    It is undeniable, therefore, that their opposition to ‘women priests’ rested, to a great extent, on the prejudice that women were a ritual risk.
     
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    YES, saying women aren't as important as men is GEE, SEXIST! Also backward, barbaric, and sick as I have posted before.....and a bunch of religious gibberish won't change that...
     
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    Yup, frightened little men making up rules to keep women down...…..
     
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    But you can't give any good reasons....funny that !!
     
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    I belong to a Southern Baptist church and we believe men should be the leaders of the church and believe it biblically sound.
    Some other denominations believe or interpet differently and they have women pasters and deacons. My congregation isn't trying to force them to do otherwise and in fact we respect them and the work they do and they likewise us. Free will and the right to choose is a part of God's plan.
     

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