Why Did Russians Choose to Assist Republicans?

Well, if you follow global banking, the World Economic Forum, Progressive Globalism, etc, you'd understand they are a threat to Russia.

Hillary is and was just a shill to these WEF/Globalist/Progressive powerbrokers, and Trump was on record saying it would be preferable to be on friendlier terms with Russia.

Put those two facts together, and it's understandable Russia might prefer to see Hillary fail.

 

I totally agree with you on the thread title. But Republicans seem so thankful for what Putin has accomplished.

 

What exactly do you think Putin accomplished?

 

Okay makes sense. So now we're better off somehow?

 

It seems he helped sway a Presidential Election?
In favor of Republicans?

 

and how did he do that?

 

In some ways yes.

Unfortunately, the unexpected loss of the White House has led to a reaction from them that is tearing the country apart.

On one hand the US is benefitting from a roll back in the Globalist policies Hillary's masters were pushing through. On the other hand, these power brokers are flexing every muscle and connection to tear the country apart and keep the current Administration from undoing what they had spent years putting together.

 

Okay then he did not influence the election.
Is that correct?

 

Putin has ambitious, far reaching goals, Trump only being one of the players. Several years ago, Putin, a former KGB agent, stated that, 'the greatest disaster of the twentieth century was the dissolution of the Soviet Union.' Putin's dream is to reestablish that empire. Putin is also committed to the destruction and elimination of liberal democracy in the world. This would destroy much of America's presence in the world and compromise our leadership. That's the history.

America isn't the only target of Putins angst, but let's stick to us for now. Every American president since Rosevelt has considered the USSR and now Russia, as a clear and present danger to America and American hegemony. The Obama administration continued in this belief and set policy accordingly. Putin and Obama disliked each other and Putin positively hated Hillary. Neither was a friend to Putin or to Russia.

Obama levied painful sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Crimea that wrecked their economy. Trump did not agree with previous United States policy toward Russia (the reasons are hotly debated) and sought to "improve" them. These factors, the destruction of democracy, the hatred of Hillary, and the destructive sanctions made Russia to do whatever necessary to elect Trump and create discord in the United States. Their investment reaped generous rewards at great cost to America.

The larger issue is did Putin sow discord and disharmony in the United States? The answer seems obvious. Did Russian interference affect the election outcome? Investigations, data, and intelligence says yes.

 

Okay but how is Globalization in a modern society a bad thing. It is inevitable. Why should that scare you?

 

I think its great that Nations trade goods with each other. The problem with the globalization that the World Economic Forum types want is part of a Global Social Justice objective. It puts large tariffs on imported good from countries like the US, but puts relatively open access to the US market from those same countries.

A review of WTO member nation tariff schedules shows that truth. Such poor agreements results in the destruction of jobs in the US and an export of economic opportunity to citizens in other Nations.

The US can't survive economically by becoming just a service economy, fixing and maintaining the hardware manufactured in other countries. That's what leads to chronic economic disaster in 3rd World countries.

 

Over one hundred years ago, Marx and Engles hypothesized that capital was mobile but labor was not. During the last hundred years we have seen capital flow to low wage regions. This has accelerated markedly in the last fifty years. Marx predicted wages would eventually flatten globally with the end result of lowest and cost labor everywhere. This is a threat to American labor and our way of life. That is a great and rational fear borne out by reality. Throw in automation and manufacturing employment becomes a distant memory,

 

Theres proof that russians were involved in a social media propaganda campaign -on both sides of the aisle- and evidence to suggest they were officially sanctioned by the Russian government. It seems likely they at least sought to influence the election.
It would make sense that they would try to influence the election in favor of Trump, for reasons many posters have already addressed. However, there's also a lot that Trump is doing that is not going in Russia's favor, so they either miscalculated, failed or we've misidentified their motives. In any case, I don't believe the social media campaign had any demonstrable effect on the election- Trump would have won regardless.

What I do believe had a demonstrable effect on the election was the exposition of Hillary's emails. If that came from the Russian govt (which is entirely possible) than I would agree that Putin influenced the election. However, I would only hold that against Putin if the emails were manufactured, which does not seem to be the case. I would consider it any decent human being's moral obligation to expose such material about any political figure, especially one running for an office with as much power as that of POTUS.

 

But large American Corporations like the cheap labor in other countries. So why do tax payers want to help to help them so much?

 

Then Edward Snowden is kind of a hero. No?

 

Whether Putin accomplished anything is in serious question. The WikiLeaks campaign hurt Clinton, but Comey's interference in the campaign eleven days before election day had a lot more effect than the Russians. Despite the animosity between the two, Comey virtually handed the election to Trump.

However, you are right about the Republicans. Because of Trump, Republicans were hurt badly in the mid-terms. Trump's disapproval rating is a majority, and he has a myriad of legal problems. Despite all that, Congressional Republicans have become lackeys for Trump, supporting him even when Trump violates conservative principles.

On the other hand, a record number of Republican politicians have simply quit.

 

I've noticed that Trump's fans want nothing to do with my earlier post where I wrote:

Putin wanted Trump as our next President and Trump is coming through for him.

Trump was subservient to Putin at Helsinki. Trump has fallen in love with the leader of Putin's ally, Kim Jong Un. Trump has threatened the NATO alliance, a partnership of free nations to restrain Russia. Trump has angered the leaders of the free world, Britain's May, Canada's Trudeau, France's Macron, and Germany's Merkel. His trade war with China is threatening the American economy. Trump removed the U.S. from an agreement that permanently barred Iran from making a nuke. Iran is another Russian ally.

A Russian agent couldn't do any better than Trump, according to Putin's way of thinking.

I'm giving them a second chance. Of course, all I did was speak the truth.

 

Not according to your leader. But you parrot well. Good job.

 

The Russians have foolishly overplayed their hand, they have been exposed publicly and certainly on this board.

The nice thing is the GOP will be punished in the coming elections for their willing acceptance and excusal of Russian interference.

 

Absolutely. He should be given a frickin medal.

 

Have Gun Will Travel... great show

 

Why did the Bears agree to let scientists create goat boy under their stadium?

 

I'm torn about this. And it goes all to 2013. I was a fan of the Smart Treaty, why? Not only did I believe in the principal of Shared Powers(wherein each regional leader would oversee its own hemisphere) but above all, an overture to the East would allow me to play off the Russian/Chinese divide(which is as substantial as the US/Russia divide.) I hoped to play the two giants off each other and once again establish the US as a predominate superpower.

It of course, could have gone the other way by lending assistance to the Chinese to have them confront the Russians, but due to China owning interest on our debt I was more strategically wanting to eliminate the Chinese. But as you can see, a US-Russian alliance isn't likely to happen in this decade, maybe not even in a century.

Maybe I should view us as tied to the hip with the Chinese, and pursue bilateral reforms that benefit both China and the US, while aiming to take down the Kremlin.

 

MAJOR DUH-UH

Because like most
They detest Hillary.



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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

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