Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?

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  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ones opposing my “sexual freedom” crowd as you put it, After all you conclude that we will support pedophelia...so I can draw my same silly conclusion about “your crowd” it’s called mocking or sarcasm
     
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    Show me where I said anything about opposing your sexual freedom?

    I concede I should have left an out for people like you who may not support pedophelia. I brought it up because it is already happening and I can’t think of a better example of where deciding what’s right on an individual basis has serious repercussions.

    I apologize for offending you personally, that was not my intent. It is curious that I’m the object of mockery when I’m not the one openly advocating for it. If you are opposed to pedophelia your wrath would be much better spent eradicating the idea before it takes hold more than it already has.

    I’m still curious what my crowd is because I certainly don’t oppose your sexual freedom.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is it a theory? You still have no idea what my “theory” is...nor R U interested.

    I can barely get out two sentences before you proceed to dump a fresh load of Rush Limbaugh on me.

    Have you ever tried to get that stuff off of you?

    It’s like Gorilla Glue. I mean look what happened to you. And Trump.
     
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    This is what right-wing socialists do..........
    Trump’s EPA Ends Obama Era Pollution Rule That Saves Thousands Of Lives
    Donald Trump’s anti-climate Environmental Protection Agency announced on Friday a change in policy that could lead to thousands of pollution-related deaths per year.
    According to The New York Times, “The Trump administration proposed on Friday major changes to the way the federal government calculates the benefits, in human health and safety, of restricting mercury emissions from coal-burning power plants.”
     
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  8. Renee

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    Tell me about all this support for making oedoohilia legal
     
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    I worry more about reality like neo nazis....Are you a Trump supporter? If you are that is your crowd
     
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    Republicans are the party of the middle and upper-middle class.

    The Dems are the party of the burger flippers and Hollywood.
     
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    I keep asking you for it. You seem only interested in projection and deflection.

    You continue to pretend to know all about me but you have struck out once again. I hope this isn’t too big of blow to your ego but I listen to Pod Save America much more than Rush. I take in information from all sources I have time to consume and still have time to actually think about things and apply the metrics we’ve already discussed before coming to concrete conclusions.

    You should try this instead of invoking an entertainer whom I disagree with on many things to cover for your lack of a valid argument. Won’t work with me. Try again.
     
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    Do some research on growing support for pedophelia.

    And remember the percentage of neo Nazi types has fallen from about 4% of the population to about .003%. The last big rally had what, 100 people show up. Scary stuff.

    Am I a Trump supporter? Does applauding some of his policies and castigating him for others make me one? Does not having the slightest desire to meet him or shake his hand make me one? Does the fact that his hilarious trolling of progressives and the media make me laugh make me a supporter? You’re the expert on “crowds”, you tell me.

    Regardless, you certainly don’t know enough about me to put me in the neo Nazi crowd! Try sticking to the issues instead of calling people Nazis. That is a very old and worn out argument that doesn’t impress me much.
     
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    I really have to laugh as you put down Hollywood. Meantime you have a president who is a TV celebrity, you elected a president who was a movie actor, then you have Thompson who was a TV actor and Clint Eastwood and sonny bono....You complain about Hollywood but yet you will elect them to office ...you are the party who is getting screwed and saying thank you
     
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    White supremacist groups are rising like mad. Don’t you watch the news at all other than fox? Here educate yourself ..they have risen over 20%
    https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/13/fbi-data-hate-crimes-rise-us-report..then let me see your source where hate groups are declining

    Please show me a legitimate movement to legalize pedophilia...not a couple of kooks..
    You are as much in the neo Nazi crowd as I am in the pedophile legality crowd and to be honest people who defend neo-Nazis and hate groups fall into a different crowd. To say that white supremacists have fallen drastically as you point out denies reality.Just take a moment of your time and Google hate groups on the rise and then show me all the hate groups that are declining. They have always been there but Trump has made it OK to be a hater
     
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    The only person I can think of advocating for legality at this time is Larson who ran for Congress in Virginia. Interestingly enough he’s pretty much a neo Nazi, too.

    Presently most of the focus is on normalizing the behavior and eliciting sympathy for abusers. It’s a pattern we typically see leading up to advocacy for legalization regardless of the issue.

    Looks like neither of our spell checkers cares if we spell it correctly! :)
     
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    I don’t have time to watch news. So no, not Fox or any of the other propaganda outfits. Why must you label people and assume things about them? I unintentionally lumped you in with pedophila advocates and have apologized. Please respond to what I say, not what you want me to be to make your argument easier.

    The SPL center thing is a map. I can’t find any data there on rising neo Nazi populations. Furthermore, spl has not done any counting on alt right populations by their own admission.

    The guardian is better but it is on hate crimes of all kinds. You brought up neo Nazis so foolishly I replied on that subject.

    As noted previously, you specifically brought up neo Nazis. The closest stats available to this are counts of Klan and affiliates. That is where my stats came from. Coincidentally it is a spl number.

    If you want to delve into hate crime or hate groups let’s go to a past thread on it or start a new one.

    I would think everyone is aware of this but google isn’t a good way to get unbiased information. Just thought I’d throw that in...
     
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    99% of Hollywood is leftist. Actors that come out of the closet as conservative are shunned.
     
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    Tom Styer, Geroge Soros, Warren Buffett, Michael Bloomberg maybe? I believe it was Buffett that said he pays less taxes than his Secretary.
     
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    No there is no focus on normalizing that behavior so stop with your rightwing conspiracies...focus more on what is real. Focus on the rise in hate groups.....they focus on segregation
     
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    Yes, and warren Buffett was using that to show how unfair tax laws are. But thank goodness he has people who don’t earn much, fighting for him instead of his secretary.
     
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    Ah, another Trumper with made up stats...lol
    No, they’re not shunned when they are conservatives, they use their acting skills to be elected by the uneducated .lol
     
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    Ok. You win, when you demean the SPL I can’t argue with you
    Forgive me for using neo-Nazis because after all the white supremacist groups don’t use that term so it must be better with you..
    you are being so disingenuous that it’s a waste of time.
     
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    It seems you're still learning about politics and current events. We'll be patient while you catch up.
     
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    Pattern recognition is a valuable resource. It allows one to predict things like this before the eventual advocates are even aware it will be a big issue. It allowed for the accurate prediction of the same sex marriage push as well as the current transgender one.

    (Since I know you will jump to conclusions about me and blow a gasket I support same sex marriage and oppose any kind of discrimination against transgenders.)

    The pattern is consistent. Pedophilia will be a huge political issue in the not too distant future. Polygamy will likely come first because it is still in the realm of consenting adults. But the groundwork is being laid for both.

    I brought up pedophilia because it is a perfect example of the danger of individuals deciding what is right for them. A point both you and gabmux are unable to debate on it’s merits.

    If you are concerned about segregation you should have made your voice heard during the Obama administration. The rise in racial unrest and animosity is a direct result of rhetoric and policies from that era. We would see the same problems today if Hillary were President. Again, pattern recognition allowed open minded people to predict this years ago, long before Trump was a candidate. Many of us warned this would happen but nobody listened. Don’t blame us now.
     
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    If your political opinions and beliefs are off limits for discussion, than just say so.
    No need for long-winded tirades.

    But if they are not off limits, then…..

    You’ve recently described Mr Limbaugh as a “cheerleader” or “more like a sportscaster color guy than a player”.

    A short time later, you said… “Sure I could be wrong. Maybe Rush is the head coach or the quarterback not the color guy. As long as the right things get done legally who cares?”

    What are “the right things” that you are referring to?
    Are “the right things” simply….

    A) Trump’s wall, the government shutdown or other Trump “actions”
    B) Whatever Rush Limbaugh is advocating
    C) Whatever you are advocating
    D) All of the above
     
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