Why do so many care?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Arjay51, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears that anything he disagrees with qualifies. :)
     
  2. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    If you actually read the post and cannot figure that out, there is a problem with you.
     
  3. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    Would that be similar to the way you react to any post that disagrees with your post? Sure sounds like it.
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, but I can see why you'd want it to be like your reaction.
     
  5. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I seen the divide and conquer used so many times it's pathetic.
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That command about "Go, and teach all nations" is misunderstood. Yeshua plainly said that he had only been sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He didn't a rats behind about anyone else. He never preached to the Gentiles and he told his dummy Apostles to stay away from them. He spoke in parables so that the outsiders (Gentiles) would not understand what he was really saying. Even his disciples got tired of his gibberish.

    The Jews were scattered from Spain to India and deep into Africa and all around the Med. A lot of them were not practicing the traditional religion. Yeshua told his Apostles to go to those areas and to rescue the lost sheep by teaching them his message. He would have had a fit if he knew that the dummies were wasting time on the Gentiles instead of finding the scattered Jews. He forgot that he was talking to low IQ people so he should have been very specific like he was in Matthew 10:5-6 (CEB) =
    5 Jesus sent these twelve out and commanded them, “Don’t go among the Gentiles or into a Samaritan city. 6 Go instead to the lost sheep, the people of Israel..
     
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  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    All religions are based upon total obedience and complete loyalty to the Boss. School kids are taught obedience.
     
  8. usfan

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    Ah. Got it. A smear and a dodge. That happens when you have no facts or reason..
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Like I say, it's just a reason for them to beat you up, or kill you, which is what most really "deep" religion is As long as religion just sticks to saying you might have a better life if you're nice to people it's fine. Once it goes beyond that it eats **** and dies.
     
  10. Swensson

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    Where? Who? How often, compared to politicians trying to cater to everyone?
     
  11. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    "Worth"? Eh. I don't think anyone believes they will change anyone's minds, or at least not for long.
     
  12. Derideo_Te

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    During the many conversations I have had with god he has mentioned how much he is opposed to religions committing Crimes Against Humanity in his name. He has his own crimes against humanity to atone for and does not condone any of the crimes committed in his name regardless of the religion in question.
     
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    You see it all the time in general terms. Especially cultivating the white-Black or white vs. minorities races by the major political parties. You see it as both try to introduce fear in what ever voting black that backs them that if the other candidate wins something terrible will happen to them. You see it on this site that folks with differing point of views are labeled racist or communist or socialist.

    You see it pitting the young against the old, you see it in class warfare, rich against poor. Veterans against non-vets. Most politicians or candidates don't come right out and say or do these things, but they ensure their campaign does, their party makes it clear if you vote for the other guy, that other guy will kill your grandmother as a Florida congressman once accused his opponent.

    Substance, ideas, solutions to problems, visions, aren't really debated or discussed anymore during the campaign, negative personal attacks are, subjects that can introduce fear into a voting block to get them to vote your way are put forth. It's divide and conquer, pitting the religious against the non-religious. That candidate will take away your right to worship, he's trying to destroy your religion or the other candidate is going to use religion to take away your equal rights.
     
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    Problem is the Apostle Paul was chosen and he did preach to Gentiles and converted them and since God is able to see what this would mean clearly intended everyone to hear the message Jew and Gentile. Well if one accepts his account of coming to become a Christian.

    Anyway my position as a United States Citizen is the Freedom of Religion is sacrosanct as long as the religion doesn't have gross abuses such as wanting to commit human sacrifices or stone people or have laws to far apart from the civil and criminal laws we have the rights of the religious person trumps lower authority (not a US Constitutional Provision or Ratified Treaty is in place). Period. Its the government that's making this more complicated than it has to be just leave religious people be.
     
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    I'm certain it happens among the general public, but here I'm particularly thinking about stuff coming from politicians. I'm not convinced it is the politicians that are making sure that groups are being demonised, I think that comes mostly from other individuals within movements (the "hobby thinkers" as I called them). In my albeit limited view, it seems to me the forefront politicians mainly see those arguments as damaging to them.
     
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    The Christian doctrine as expressed in the Bible doesn't teach that you will have a better life if you're nice to people.
     
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    And you continue to troll and refuse to stick to the topic, especially when shown the truth about yourself. Simply amazing that one of your self purported genius refuses to see himself in what he accuses others of. But then, it does tell all one needs to know about you.
     
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    Which would appear to be something that you know all about, being as you practice it at every opportunity.

    Try some actual thought, for once. You may get someone to actually consider what you say instead of just noting your babbling.
     
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    Yet they continually try, and fail, to change peoples minds.

    To me, this is the definition of theism and its enforced beliefs. Doomed to failure yet continue to push for power over the lives of any who can easily be swayed.
     
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    Disagreed. I was on topic and answering questions until you didn't like the answers, then you started making false accusations against me. Hence why I am not surprised by your reactions to the posts of others.
     
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    Christianity is a fairly crappy religion at getting people a better life if you go into it that deeply So are just about all the Abrahamic faiths, and most all of the rest actually. Being very religious won't give you a very good life overall
     
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    Most politicians/candidates try to stay above the fray, for sure. Trump is an exception. But their campaign staff, underlings if you will do the dividing, the name calling, the opposition research, sponsor the negative ads along with other so called political action committees. Some officially tied to the campaign, some not officially, at least legally but works with the campaign with a wink and a nudge.
     
  23. Arjay51

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    If you bothered to look, which obviously you haven't, you would see who started this thread. Being that person, I am the most entitled to declare that you are off topic, with the idea of promoting only yourself.

    Here is a surprise, I don't care what surprises you. Any intelligent thought would do this.

    Hate to burst your little bubble, but I really don't care what you say or claim as I consider it all to be lies trying to promote only yourself.


    And you continue to fail to stay on topic. Not unexpected as you don't understand the concept of the question.
     
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    then if you don't keep around them, or if you do not keep them around, how are you being constantly being asked about your belief by them? Or do you live in a city that has 'them' around all the time and there is not much you can do about it?
     
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    I'm trying to understand the jest of your question.

    Are you asking why Atheists tend to start posts mocking the Bible and how they espouse their views as logical and truth , or why a Christian would believe that acknowledging Jesus as God's Son is the only way for eternal life?
     
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